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Helikopteri / Odg: Žiro AVCS problem
Ovo je za popiz*** >:(

Dakle da stavim cijelu priču.

Pokušavam namjestiti GA-250 na 250 heliju da u HH modu ne bježi nikuda.
Stvar je radila, bila ispravna, rep je stajao na mjestu. Sada više ne. I to je ono što me tjera dalje, inače bi ga već otpisao.


Probao sam dva serva DS480 da vidim da li je tu neki problem. Ne , oba rade jednako.
Rep u biti nema nekih slobodnih kretnji koje bi mogle biti uzrok.

S tim gyrom probaj ovaj servo http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=13422

izgleda da radi dobro sa ovim sranjom od serva a po specifikacijama se ne slažu ali rade sigurno su specifikacije krivo napisane.
ovaj servo inače ostali gyri sprže u digital modu ali ga GA-250 ljubi
3
Elektronika i baterije / Odg: Uvoz stanice - RITT dozvola
Dozvola izvađena (valjda če sutra doć) Ako je ko zainteresiran za stanicu u Splitu i okolici slobodno neka se javi.
cijena 480-590 kn  zavisno jeli opale carinu.

Opalili ni carinu i harač HP 170 kn + 200 kn dozvola + 9 kn obavjest
Bravo Hrvatska samo naprjed,
Hrvatska država je 100 puta pametnija od kineza,glupi kinezi su morali zaposlit hrpu ljudi da bi tu stanicu proizveli,potrošili silikon,bakar,plastiku i prodaju je za 55 $
a naša pametna država,harač,desno lijevo naprid nazad i zaradi država 70 $ na toj stanici a prstom nije makla
5
Micro, FP i coaxial / Odg: k:početnički heli
Pa nisam odredio još gornju granicu...ali recimo cca 100 eura, ali neću sad škrtarit na 100-200 kn ak mogu dobit tipa klasu jačeg ili sl. i ako ć mi duže trajat. Naravno neželim nekaj skupo čime onda kao početnik nebum znal letit i skršit....to mi stvarno nema smisla...

A naravno , opet se neželim razbacivati...Trebam nešto best buy, nači nešto što će mi biti zadovoljavajuć za naučit, bit dobro za duži period, ne prekupo, ne prejeftino da brzo prerastem...zato sam se i obratio vama iskusnijim momcima za savjet :)

 HXT900 - HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo    $8.07   3 komada
 TY2215-3550 - Turnigy Typhoon 450H 2215H Heli Motor 3..    $11.79   1 komad
 HKS-450V2 - HK450 CCPM 3D Helicopter Kit (Align T-re..     $8.99  
  GA-250 - HobbyKing GA-250 MINI-MEMS Gyro     $9.99   45  
  V2-150-11T - HK450 size Pinion Gear 3.17mm/11T (Align..    $3.99    
   Z24503S-30 - ZIPPY Flightmax 2450mAh 3S1P 30C    $16.46  
   HK-SSH50A - Hobbyking SS Heli Series 50-65A ESC    $11.99
    HGD-261HB - HGD digital 261HB Carbon Gear Servo 20g ..    $36.90     
Total: $110.17                                                                                                   1847g  
I Air Mail 1.85kg   $29.79  

ako kupuješ preko buddy koda sve skupa te dođe oko 110-120$ sa prevozom
Fali ti stanica i punjač lipa i rezervni djelovi za popravak osovina,elisa(ne uzeti karbon bolje jeftina plastika koja se raspada pri udaru bolje da pukne elisa nego glava))

ako na ovome naučiš letit posli sve letiš kao od šale.Ko je naučija vozit na fiči ko od šale vozi BMW a obrnuto teško)
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Elektronika i baterije / Odg: Uvoz stanice - RITT dozvola
Dali mozda netko uvozio neku od navedenih stanica ?

HobbyKing 2.4Ghz 6Ch Tx & Rx http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9042&aff=80591
HobbyKing HK6DF 2.4Ghz FHSS 6Ch Tx & Rx http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16238

Tj. mozda ima dozvolu za uvoz stanice, i dali se uopce isplati narucit ove stanice.
Posto mi je ovo prva stanica za Cessnu koju krecem sam napravit.
Ili mozda netko ima za prodat neku stanicu za pocetnika ;) Nemora bit 2.4Ghz.

Nisam jos siguran dali mi treba neka ozbiljna, u smislu koliko ci vremen imati za ovaj hobi.

http://www.rcmonstershop.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=41
Nazoveš, čovjek ti pošalje na kućnu adresu, za 2 dana imaš stanicu.

Ma kako je on uvozi i preko koga.te stanice nema na listi odobrenih a i obrt im je zatvoren barem na sudskom registru.
isto uvozi i 9ch http://www.rcmonstershop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=177 i on nema odobrenje za puštat na tržište. ili ima a ja ga ne mogu pronač na hakomu.
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Helikopteri / Odg: 450 KLONOVI
ili ovo

Quantity   Stock   Product description   Price   Weight   
    OK   HXT900 - HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo    $8.07   54   
    BK   TY2215-3550 - Turnigy Typhoon 450H 2215H Heli Motor 3..
This item is on backorder*    $11.79   85   
    BK   HKS-450V2 - HK450 CCPM 3D Helicopter Kit (Align T-re..
This item is on backorder*    $8.99   869   
    BK   GA-250 - HobbyKing GA-250 MINI-MEMS Gyro
This item is on backorder*    $9.99   45   
    OK   V2-150-11T - HK450 size Pinion Gear 3.17mm/11T (Align..    $3.99   7   
    OK   GT500-127 - HK-500GT Pinion Gear 5mm/13T (Align part..    $1.99   13   
    OK   BOX-379g - Extra Length Cardboard Box and Packing 3..    $0.00   379   
    OK   Z24503S-30 - ZIPPY Flightmax 2450mAh 3S1P 30C    $16.46   285   
    OK   HK-SSH50A - Hobbyking SS Heli Series 50-65A ESC    $11.99   59   
    OK   HGD-261HB - HGD digital 261HB Carbon Gear Servo 20g ..    $36.90   51   
Total: $110.17                                                                                                   1847g   
International (Registered) Air Mail 1.85kg   $29.79   2g left.

Sve skupa s poštarinom    140 $

a ako se potrudiš i sve uzmeš preko buddy koda jedno 110-120 $
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Online trgovine / Odg: hobbyking - koliko traje dostava
225-May-2011   Hong Kong   Item posted.
26-May-2011   Hong Kong   Processed for departure.
28-May-2011   Hong Kong   The item left Hong Kong for its destination on 29-May-2011
1-Jun-2011   Croatia   Arrived and is being processed.
1-Jun-2011   Croatia   In transit.
2-Jun-2011   Croatia   Pending customs inspection.
2-Jun-2011   Croatia   Pending customs inspection.

Evo za 6 dana čajna do zagreba
sad čemo vidjet koliko do mene

Na carini ja zadovoljan kina-split 7 dana
9
Helikopteri / Odg: 450 KLONOVI
Naručija ga i ja.Jeftinije je vježbat na plastici nego metalu.
A ko nauči na ovom letit lako se prebacit letit na skupu varijantu.
10
Online trgovine / Odg: HK buddy code popusti
   
HK450 size Pinion Gear 3.17mm/11T (Align par
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=0063248D-F5B1-4BC9-AFDB-9AEECC0043CF

HK450 CCPM 3D Helicopter Kit (Align T-rex Co
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=A384369B-29A1-4182-B5AF-FA7AB3240791

Turnigy Typhoon 450H 2218H Heli Motor 3450k
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=6F3F695D-9AD0-4374-8924-F47BAD7CDD65

Main Rotor Leveler Tool (5mm)
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=FF08F597-05D8-4D81-8C70-4416DC2B29BF

HK450 size Pinion Gear 3.17mm/13T (Align par
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=8AD874DA-4706-4A80-A119-B86B1BE24A3A

GWS Park HPX Servo 19g/.05sec/3.6kg (JR Plug
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=4DC9E447-4EB1-4D4A-94CE-8D8E3CF4A693

Turnigy 9X 2.4GHz 8Ch Receiver (V2)
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=EA249A58-9BB4-4345-850F-4FB02AF553FD

HKS-9257 High Speed Servo 4.5kg/ 25g/ 0.07se
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=5315D73F-DD8A-4B2F-9217-AEEDD2A6CA13

Hobby King 401B AVCS Digital Head Lock Gyro
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=5556A1ED-B1C4-4DE5-AAD0-F4B820DF9E1A

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Helikopteri / Odg: 450 KLONOVI
Evo moj heli je danas pusten sa carine, bez ikakve naplate, sutra ga dobivam po nekom normalnom redosljedu.

Ajd postaj kakvu sliku i komentar kad ti dodje na kuću. Bas me zanima sta je kvaka za tu cijenu.
a koji

Ja sam uzeja

HK600 GT i čekam vas da mi javite kakav je taj jeftini od 9$ za vježbat.


Quantity   Stock   Product description   Price   Weight   
    OK   HXT900 - HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo    $10.76   72   
    OK   TY2215-3550 - Turnigy Typhoon 450H 2215H Heli Motor 3..    $11.79   85   
    BK   HKS-450V2 - HK450 CCPM 3D Helicopter Kit (Align T-re..
This item is on backorder*    $8.99   869   
    OK   GWSPARKHPXF/BB/J - GWS Park HPX Servo 19g/.05sec/3.6kg (JR ..    $8.92   35   
    OK   BOX-379g - Extra Length Cardboard Box and Packing 3..    $0.00   379   
    OK   HK-SSH50A - Hobbyking SS Heli Series 50-65A ESC    $11.99   59   
Total: $52.45   1499g   

To je u jednoj kutiji još nisam pustija naruđbu
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Helikopteri / Odg: kds flymentor
Kada smo ga išli isprobati sve dok nismo uključili flymentora bilo je ok držo sam helić mirno u zraku.. nakon uključivanja helić je jednostavno napravio poluluping i razletio se u 100 komadića..
fly mentor je programiran po uputama s CD-a i s interneta..

Najvjerovatnije si ga naopako spojia

evo šta njemci kažu

We, the HeliCommand-team from CAPTRON Electronic GmbH, have obtained an injunction against the company KDS Model Technologies by the district court of Frankfurt/Main, Germany.

KDS has been selling a stabilisation system named „Flymentor“ in Germany, which impinged upon our rights of the HeliCommand-software (firmware), proofed by the district court of Frankfurt/Main, Germany.
By this decision KDS and any dealers are forbidden to use the software (firmware) developed by us for the helicopter stabilisation system HeliCommand for radio-controlled model helicopters in Germany (decision from district court Frankfurt/Main, Germany on the 31st of August 2009, file reference 2-03 O 371/09). This injunction was achieved without hearing the opposition (KDS). It took preliminary effect, i.e. KDS has the possibility to appeal to court against this decision.

To gain appreciation of preferably most dealers, customers and modelers, we want to let anybody know why we act in the way we do against KDS and the product Flymentor. Some may not understand at first, only having an eye for the price; that’s why we want to specify our action a little more precisely and are sure to get your sympathy, because it makes more than only sense.

To bring up a product like HeliCommand, years over years of basic and complex research were necessary, and additionally multiple patented inventions. Also an elaborate and costly development to the point of serial production cannot be realised without suitable resources (i.e. additional jobs in Germany). This technology and all it’s highly complex algorithms and firmware would not have been realised and working properly without all these benefits. The team behind the scenes from HeliCommand has come up with the necessary pioneering spirit long before the first unit appeared in the global market, together with remarkable stamina.

By the way, each exemplar of the HeliCommands gets it’s individual sensor calibration and sealing, which means a lot more effort, but assures the constant high performance of the HeliCommands.

The also needful and high investment was pursued with economical intention (and therewith these investments were to be financed), and therefore we defend ourselves against this infringement of our industrial property rights.

In our judgement, the stabilisation software of the Flymentor from KDS and any business activity in this context, speaking of reproduction, export, product advertisement and disposal offends our industrial property rights on the HeliCommand. We see this as a dynamic and extensive aggression against the worldwide benefits entitled to us and the chance of amortisation of costs and future success.

Accordingly high is our motivation to interfere against any further infringements.

We assume not to act only in terms of all our business partners, but also the majority of our customers, and appreciate all the positive feedback in this case so far. We want to take the opportunity to thank everybody for any assistance in any case.

With best regards,
Your HeliCommand-Team
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Helikopteri / Odg: 1520us, 760us i 960us
OK sad gledam taj manual, i vidim da sam neke stvari preskočio. Tipa nemam pojma da li trebam namjestiti taj us/Hz prema servu? Servo je DS480 a žiro GA-250 mini mems.

Ovak, helić mi bježi u stranu, i mislim da nije čisto mehanika, jer sam u rate modu uspio ga bez problema podići uz apsolutno minimalnu korekciju.
E sada kada prebacim u AVCS digne se zakrenut od pravca za 45% recimo, i tako stane tj od tamo lagano bježi u stranu.

Možda je stvar vibracija, jer vidim po "tail finu"(ne znam kako da prevedem:) da dok se ne postigne neka brzina elisa , recimo malo do odljepljivanja od zemlje vidim da plastika vibrira, točnije njen vrh brzo lijevo desno. Predpostavljam da to nije normalno, i da trebam provjeriti vibraciju. Budem sutra sve skinuo elise i zavrtio da vidim o ćemu se radi, izbalansirao ih, i stavio nazad.

E sada to i nije tako čudno već mi je nešto drugo bilo čudno.
Kada sam spustio helić i uključio RATE mod sve radi kako treba. NO prebacim u AVCS i pomaknem ruder u desno ili lijevo i elise se otklone u tu stranu i stoje i onda nakon kračeg vremena vrlo sporo se vrate u početni položaj. To normalno?
Ja ti preporučujem da napraviš ovakav stolič za štelovanje heliya.Mislim da je jeftinije nego radit na balkonu

Tuning the GA - 250 Gyro with Turnigy DS480
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Helikopteri / Odg: 1520us, 760us i 960us
OK, nešto jasnije.

Imam Ga-250 mini mems, onaj najjeftiniji gyro, i radi na 250 heliću super ni malo trzaja na repu, što me začuđuje. No imam konstantni mali drift u desno, no moram podesiti očito mehanički da to nestane.
No malo sam istraživao i naišao na te us i Hz pa me zanimalo.
Uz taj gyro imam ds480 servo. Kako to paše? Ne vidim nigdje te informacije i uopće kako se te vrijednosti odnose, tj da li se one podešavaju negdje ili jednostavno treba upariti željene žiroskope s servačima?


Evo ti link sa upustvom i kako namjestit s kojim servom da radi
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uploads/942408456X39484X16.pdf