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RC Modeli => MultiRotor => Topic started by: Alpo on August 20, 2016, 04:51:49 pm

Title: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Alpo on August 20, 2016, 04:51:49 pm
Eto, pošto vidim da bi moglo biti zainteresiranih, da podjelim što znam.
Stvar je super, pogotovo za hladne i kišne dane kada nije ugodno ili sigurno biti vani. Za jurit po doma ili uredu je neopisiv fun. (fyi, ima horizon i acro mode ;) )

Slike kako to čudo izgleda:
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Što napraviti sa tiny whoop? Pa zabavljati sve oko sebe. DVR Video (by sekile) sa jučeranjeg guštanja. Nije skidao osmjeh s lica.
(tiny whoop počinje na 40s videa)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ps_qWC2Va0&t=40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ps_qWC2Va0&t=40s#)

Što vam treba za jedan?

Inductrix kao kit:
https://newbeedrone.com/collections/beeductrix-inductrix (https://newbeedrone.com/collections/beeductrix-inductrix)
Ušteda cca, 20  dolara, vjerojatno i više ako se uzmu poštarine naručivanja sa minimalno 2-3 lokacije.

Zanimljivo za vidjeti da ima i zamjenski clean/beta/flight kompatibilan kontroler.
https://newbeedrone.com/collections/beeductrix-inductrix/products/the-beebrain-v-1-cleanflight-betaflight-compatible-flight-control-for-the-beeductrix-inductrix-quad (https://newbeedrone.com/collections/beeductrix-inductrix/products/the-beebrain-v-1-cleanflight-betaflight-compatible-flight-control-for-the-beeductrix-inductrix-quad)

Za prave profesionalce, ima i jačih frejmova:
https://tinywhoop.com/collections/all/products/rakon-frame-for-the-tiny-whoop?variant=22579419457 (https://tinywhoop.com/collections/all/products/rakon-frame-for-the-tiny-whoop?variant=22579419457)

Moj orginalni shopping cart niže, iako mislim da se moža neke stvari sad već i jeftinije pronaći:
Kvad:
http://www.modellhobby.de/HORIZON-Blade-Inductrix-BNF.htm?shop=k_staufenb_e&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=094BLH8780&t=1907&c=25625&p=25625 (http://www.modellhobby.de/HORIZON-Blade-Inductrix-BNF.htm?shop=k_staufenb_e&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=094BLH8780&t=1907&c=25625&p=25625)

Motori (uzeo fast i sasvim su dobri):
https://micro-motor-warehouse.com/collections/tinywhoop (https://micro-motor-warehouse.com/collections/tinywhoop)

Baterije:
http://www.mylipo.de/ (http://www.mylipo.de/)

Kamera:
https://www.lindinger.at/en/helicopters/fpv-systems-und-cameras/videocameras-und-fpv-cameras/hyperion-600tvl-mini-fpv-kamera-mit-25mv-sender-5-8ghz (https://www.lindinger.at/en/helicopters/fpv-systems-und-cameras/videocameras-und-fpv-cameras/hyperion-600tvl-mini-fpv-kamera-mit-25mv-sender-5-8ghz)
http://store.flitetest.com/hyperion-mini-600-tvl-camera-w-built-in-5-8ghz-25mw-vtx/ (http://store.flitetest.com/hyperion-mini-600-tvl-camera-w-built-in-5-8ghz-25mw-vtx/)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: George on August 20, 2016, 09:35:44 pm
Hvala na temi :D

Odlicna igrackica. Skupa ali odlicna.

Ja ipak cekam jeftiniju verziju npr na banggood. Vec i imaju dvije verzije slicnih quadica.

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on August 20, 2016, 10:46:24 pm
S kojom stanicom (i modulom) ga upravljaš?
Djeluje jako zarazno  :)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Alpo on August 20, 2016, 11:26:07 pm
Imam 9XR Pro sa OrangeRX JR modulom. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F90770%5F%5FOrangeRX%5FDSMX%5FDSM2%5FCompatible%5F2%5F4Ghz%5FTransmitter%5FModule%5FV1%5F2%5FJR%5FTurnigy%5FTaranis%5Fcompatible%5F.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F90770%5F%5FOrangeRX%5FDSMX%5FDSM2%5FCompatible%5F2%5F4Ghz%5FTransmitter%5FModule%5FV1%5F2%5FJR%5FTurnigy%5FTaranis%5Fcompatible%5F.html)
Potrebna je Spektrum DSMX 2.4GHz kompatibilna stanica (bitan note za OrangeRX modul -  firmware treba biti 1.2 ili novije).
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on August 20, 2016, 11:51:10 pm
Imam 9XR Pro sa OrangeRX JR modulom. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F90770%5F%5FOrangeRX%5FDSMX%5FDSM2%5FCompatible%5F2%5F4Ghz%5FTransmitter%5FModule%5FV1%5F2%5FJR%5FTurnigy%5FTaranis%5Fcompatible%5F.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F90770%5F%5FOrangeRX%5FDSMX%5FDSM2%5FCompatible%5F2%5F4Ghz%5FTransmitter%5FModule%5FV1%5F2%5FJR%5FTurnigy%5FTaranis%5Fcompatible%5F.html)
Potrebna je Spektrum DSMX 2.4GHz kompatibilna stanica (bitan note za OrangeRX modul -  firmware treba biti 1.2 ili novije).


Hvala na info. Super da si otvorio ovu temu, ja sam baš malo u istraživanju whoop-ja i najesen kreće "izgradnja" te se nadam da će biti još ljudi za izmjenu informacija!
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Alpo on August 21, 2016, 01:14:45 am
Nema problema. Ako budeš imao još pitanja samo piši. Kad sam slagao svojeg nisam za neke stvari nalazio ok informacija pa ću probat pomoći da se  drugi ne muče sa  istim stvarima sa kojima sam se i ja.

Kada budem imao daljnjih razvoja na ovu temu budem ažururao originalni post.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: hrvojehrvoje on August 21, 2016, 08:51:09 pm
jeftilen verzija, naravno i manje zabavna, ali moze proci ...
http://www.flyfreak.net/multirotor/postaje-slike-svog-minija!!!/msg222580/#msg222580

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-H8-Mini-Headless-Mode-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-975808.html (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-H8-Mini-Headless-Mode-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-975808.html) ... 12.99
http://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-10mW-Wireless-Audio-Video-Transmitter-Module-TX5813-p-84761.html (http://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-10mW-Wireless-Audio-Video-Transmitter-Module-TX5813-p-84761.html) ... 8.09 ... treba prelemiti jumper
http://www.banggood.com/600TVL-8_0MP-14-2_8mm-CMOS-FPV-170-Degree-Wide-Anlge-Lens-Camera-PALNTSC-p-984345.html (http://www.banggood.com/600TVL-8_0MP-14-2_8mm-CMOS-FPV-170-Degree-Wide-Anlge-Lens-Camera-PALNTSC-p-984345.html) ... 7.99 ... radi na 1S i kad quadcopter vec prestane letjeti

postoji i custom firmware ali mi je to malo komplicirano za isprobavati
https://dronegarageblog.wordpress.com/2016/01/06/eachine-h8-open-source-firmware-with-acro-mode/ (https://dronegarageblog.wordpress.com/2016/01/06/eachine-h8-open-source-firmware-with-acro-mode/)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2512604 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2512604)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on August 21, 2016, 11:23:07 pm
Hrvoje imas kakav video kako malac leti, bas me zanima
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: hrvojehrvoje on August 22, 2016, 12:25:17 am
Izvnuo sam ga naglavacke pa su malo nastradale ove filigranske zicice od kamere, tako da ceka druzenje s lemilicom ..a moje letacke vjestine na quadovima nisu bas neke, tako da mogu samo reci da je ovako natovaren s kamerom i lc filterom solidno trom i treba mu puno gasa da poleti.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on September 09, 2016, 09:37:17 pm
Nije tiny whoop nego neki sklepanac ali fora za letit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSN0gquuNIc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSN0gquuNIc)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Sys on September 09, 2016, 10:14:16 pm
nemoj me j... da je tako dobar signal kroz vanjske zidove?!? ludilo... koji je cam/vtx/ant bundle?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on September 09, 2016, 11:33:23 pm
To je 200mw vtx, radi to super, bolje nego na mojem  :D ;D
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: xcalibre on September 22, 2016, 11:19:08 pm
Evo ima neki qx90, može se bindovat sa taranisom http://www.banggood.com/Tiny-QX90-90mm-Micro-..-Controller-FrSKY-Taranis-X9D-p-1069614.html (http://www.banggood.com/Tiny-QX90-90mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-Flight-Controller-FrSKY-Taranis-X9D-p-1069614.html?p=KX28152008068201507H)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on September 23, 2016, 08:35:20 am
Evo ima neki qx90, može se bindovat sa taranisom http://www.banggood.com/Tiny-QX90-90mm-Micro-..-Controller-FrSKY-Taranis-X9D-p-1069614.html (http://www.banggood.com/Tiny-QX90-90mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-Flight-Controller-FrSKY-Taranis-X9D-p-1069614.html?p=KX28152008068201507H)

A ima i ovaj ...

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-X73-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-Naze32-Flight-Controller-With-Frsky-X9D-Receiver-p-1071609.html (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-X73-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-Naze32-Flight-Controller-With-Frsky-X9D-Receiver-p-1071609.html)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on September 23, 2016, 08:47:16 am
A uskoro i ovaj ... :)

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Fatbee-FB90-90mm-Micro-FPV-LED-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-Flight-Controller-p-1089814.html?p=KX28152008068201507H (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Fatbee-FB90-90mm-Micro-FPV-LED-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-Flight-Controller-p-1089814.html?p=KX28152008068201507H)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on September 30, 2016, 12:55:59 am
DIY verzija mikronca, leti fino, treba jos to malo podesit ali fora, tnx Bodule za ground snimke


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOjVgDj-A0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOjVgDj-A0)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: backspin on September 30, 2016, 03:22:49 pm
presuper masinica....
daj ljudima detalje :D
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on September 30, 2016, 06:43:20 pm
Naravno, naravno. Znaci mikro sklepanac je sastavljen od sljedecih dijelova dolje u linku. Na njega sam stavio zadnji cleanflight jer mi betaflight nije nikako radio. Uglavnom super zabava


frame
http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-110-110mm-Carbon-Fiber-DIY-… (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-110-110mm-Carbon-Fiber-DIY-Micro-Mini-FPV-RC-Quadcopter-Frame-Kit-8_5x20-Coreless-Motor-p-1064027.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size]
[/font]
or this one
[/color]http://www.hobbyking.com/…/__89218__Quanum_WISP_110_Micro_M… (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__89218__Quanum_WISP_110_Micro_Multirotor_Frame.html?strSearch=micro+frame)
[/size]motors
http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-820-8_5x20mm-Coreless-… (http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-820-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-150mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-RC-Quadcopter-Frame-p-1069067.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
[/color][/size]flight controler
http://www.banggood.com/Micro-Scisky-32bits-Brushed-Flight-… (http://www.banggood.com/Micro-Scisky-32bits-Brushed-Flight-Control-Board-With-1_25mm-Plugs-For-DIY-Micro-Quadcopter-Frame-p-1067976.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
[/color][/size]propelers
http://www.banggood.com/5-Sets-Walkera-QR-Ladybird-Hubsan-H… (http://www.banggood.com/5-Sets-Walkera-QR-Ladybird-Hubsan-H107L-JJRC-H6C-1000A-Main-Blades-Propellers-QR-Ladybird-Z-01-p-1051791.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
[/color][/size]fpv cam
http://www.banggood.com/700TVL-CMOS-14-CMOS-FPV-Camera-150-… (http://www.banggood.com/700TVL-CMOS-14-CMOS-FPV-Camera-150-Degree-Wide-Angle-NTSC-PAL-3_3-5V-p-1019754.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
[/color][/size]vtx
http://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-200mW-32CH-Wireless-Audio-… (http://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-200mW-32CH-Wireless-Audio-Video-AV-Transmitter-Module-FX758-2-p-980317.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
[/color][/size]antenna
http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Tiny-QX90-Micro-Racing-Quad… (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Tiny-QX90-Micro-Racing-Quadcopter-Spare-Parts-5_8G-4-Leaves-RHCP-FPV-Mushroom-Antenna-p-1090747.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
[/color][/size]lipo
http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-15-X5C-3_7V-600MAH-Upgrade-… (http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-15-X5C-3_7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery-Meal-p-941261.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)[/size][/font]
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 02, 2016, 06:43:02 pm
Mikro zaraza


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaHr27QppXg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaHr27QppXg)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: backspin on October 02, 2016, 08:09:32 pm
Macki nis nije jasno hahaha:)))

Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 22, 2016, 09:52:04 pm
Eachine E010 fpv, e kad dodju bolji motori onda ce to biti whoooop


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBEysygesx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBEysygesx0)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on October 22, 2016, 10:09:03 pm
Kako si ga bindao sa stanicom? Možda ovo ... ?

http://www.banggood.com/Multiprotocol-TX-Module-For-Frsky-X9D-X9D-Plus-X12S-Flysky-TH9X-Transmitter-p-1097688.html?zf=4095472
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 22, 2016, 10:47:52 pm
Nope drugi FC sam stavio, dobar je i orginal, ali ovoga vozim na taranis i ima manual
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Toki on October 23, 2016, 12:40:08 am
Jel možeš Flip napravit s inductriksom? Jel ima full manul bez ikakve stabilizacije?
Uskoro dolazi i inductiks fpv bnf koju mislim uzet jel imam spectruma pa me zanima. ;)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 23, 2016, 01:34:43 am
mislim da sa orginal nemozes, ali skuzio sam da je najbolje ga sam sklopiti. Ja bi uzeo ove dijelove, pod FC odaberes koji receiver koristis . Znaci imas ful manual. Ja cekam ove motorice da dodju pa cu ti reci jesu dobri ili ne, ali po testovima puno bolji od stock


frame - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Frame-p-1081723.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Frame-p-1081723.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


motori - http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-615-6x15mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-130mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Blade-Inductrix-p-1074157.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-615-6x15mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-130mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Blade-Inductrix-p-1074157.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


flight controler - http://www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


propsi - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-p-1079425.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-p-1079425.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


FPV - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: X on October 23, 2016, 06:36:33 pm
Seki,


koje je tvoje misljenje o ovim motorima  ( Chaoli 8520 )


http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-820-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-150mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-RC-Quadcopter-Frame-p-1069067.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-820-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-150mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-RC-Quadcopter-Frame-p-1069067.html?rmmds=search)


pitanje je i da li stanu po dimenzijama na E010
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 23, 2016, 09:22:49 pm
Ne stanu , na eachine E010 idu manji motori jer je i manji quad. A gle nadam se da ce uskoro stici motori pa kad probam javim
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: X on October 23, 2016, 09:41:43 pm
Evo gotove varijante, treba samo malo pricekati


http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Turbine-QX70-70mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-EVO-Brushed-Flight-Controller-p-1095990.html?rmmds=mywishlist (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Turbine-QX70-70mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-EVO-Brushed-Flight-Controller-p-1095990.html?rmmds=mywishlist)



Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on October 23, 2016, 10:39:07 pm
Meni se više sviđa ovaj ... malo je veći, zanemari "oklop" ... ali mu je kamera sprijeda


http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Fatbee-FB90-90mm-Micro-FPV-LED-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-Flight-Controller-p-1089814.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Fatbee-FB90-90mm-Micro-FPV-LED-Racing-Quadcopter-BNF-Based-On-F3-Flight-Controller-p-1089814.html?rmmds=search)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on October 23, 2016, 10:44:57 pm
Nope drugi FC sam stavio, dobar je i orginal, ali ovoga vozim na taranis i ima manual


Želiš reći onaj koji je na banggodu u preorder-u ?  ???
Cool
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Toki on October 24, 2016, 12:27:03 am
mislim da sa orginal nemozes, ali skuzio sam da je najbolje ga sam sklopiti. Ja bi uzeo ove dijelove, pod FC odaberes koji receiver koristis . Znaci imas ful manual. Ja cekam ove motorice da dodju pa cu ti reci jesu dobri ili ne, ali po testovima puno bolji od stock


frame - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Frame-p-1081723.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Frame-p-1081723.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)




motori - http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-615-6x15mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-130mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Blade-Inductrix-p-1074157.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-615-6x15mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-130mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Blade-Inductrix-p-1074157.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


flight controler - http://www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


propsi - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-p-1079425.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-p-1079425.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


FPV - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)




Ok hvala puno, defnitivno budem pogledao pa razmislio malo sta cu uzet, vidio sam danas i zedov na livadi. :)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 24, 2016, 12:30:09 am
Zedov je QX90, taj je malcice veci, ali ima i vece motore. vec su u planu mikro brushless, tj suki vec ima jednog,model doinker , e to je vec pila
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: George on October 24, 2016, 09:25:16 am
Takav brushless je meni zapeo za oko. To je tek pila. Kreso, jesi ga probao?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 24, 2016, 09:50:34 am
Ne, jos se cekaju dijelovi
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: George on October 24, 2016, 10:01:30 am
Aha :)
Ja upravo maidenao svoj onaj :)  Stavim fotku kasnije
Cini se da bude ok. Cekam da fpv stigne.

Onda u nabavku batki...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: George on October 24, 2016, 01:25:30 pm
Evo pile :)

FC je skinut sa E010, "stanica" je stock. Motori su neki koje sam naso kod buraza na nekom polomljenom quadicu. 7x20 mm. Propovi od eachine xq95. Na putu su walkerini propovi jer ovi nisu nesto. A nisu ni moji :)

Quad frame, print by Soxy. Odlicno je ispalo, thanks! Malac se cini dosta jak ovak na oko. Upravljiv je bolje nego original E010. Nema one osjetljivosti na yaw-u. A i stanica je upgradeana sa "gimbalima" sa taranisa pa je lakse upravljanje :) Ne sklizu palcevi :)

Na putu je eachine TX02, pa ce bit neka snimka tek kad stigne.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on October 24, 2016, 08:09:28 pm
Haha fora George, super izgleda, sad jos FPV i udri, da te malo napalim


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztIPgUKE6Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztIPgUKE6Y)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: George on October 25, 2016, 10:35:30 am
Haha, kako ga vrtis :)

Cekam fpv combo da stigne...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: boha on October 25, 2016, 10:28:45 pm
Da li baterije koje se spominju u ovoja temi možete naručiti sa BGa ?


PR.
http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-15-X5C-3_7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery-Meal-p-941261.html?rmmds=cart (http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-15-X5C-3_7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery-Meal-p-941261.html?rmmds=cart)
ili neke druge baterije za micro quadove


Kada je odabrana Croatia piše uredno i "pristojno" poruka "Sold Out Currently!" Međutim ako je zemlja Italija, Austrija, Njemačka... baterije se najnormalnije mogu staviti u košaricu ?


Kao da nas fino i pristojno zaobilaze iz nekog razloga ?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: GPP on October 25, 2016, 11:54:47 pm
Ako ne ide, zakaj ne naručiš ovdje ...


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Syma-X5-15-X5C-X5SW-1-H5C-1-To-4-3-7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery/32623634602.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.10.L6U9XX&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=c22ef4f5-0b54-4a2a-aadc-8e16b46d448a (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Syma-X5-15-X5C-X5SW-1-H5C-1-To-4-3-7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery/32623634602.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.10.L6U9XX&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=c22ef4f5-0b54-4a2a-aadc-8e16b46d448a)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: boha on October 26, 2016, 07:39:40 am
Ako ne ide, zakaj ne naručiš ovdje ...


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Syma-X5-15-X5C-X5SW-1-H5C-1-To-4-3-7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery/32623634602.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.10.L6U9XX&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=c22ef4f5-0b54-4a2a-aadc-8e16b46d448a (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Syma-X5-15-X5C-X5SW-1-H5C-1-To-4-3-7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery/32623634602.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.10.L6U9XX&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=c22ef4f5-0b54-4a2a-aadc-8e16b46d448a)
Da mogu naručiti, ali je malo čudno kako nas iz HR i još neke zaobilaze kod mogućnosti naručivanja bat sa BG CN.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: boha on October 26, 2016, 09:41:55 am
Da li baterije koje se spominju u ovoja temi možete naručiti sa BGa ?


PR.
http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-15-X5C-3_7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery-Meal-p-941261.html?rmmds=cart (http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-15-X5C-3_7V-600MAH-Upgrade-Battery-Meal-p-941261.html?rmmds=cart)
ili neke druge baterije za micro quadove


Kada je odabrana Croatia piše uredno i "pristojno" poruka "Sold Out Currently!" Međutim ako je zemlja Italija, Austrija, Njemačka... baterije se najnormalnije mogu staviti u košaricu ?


Kao da nas fino i pristojno zaobilaze iz nekog razloga ?


Evo odgovora sa BGa koji mi je čudan.... Jer mogu slati u ostatak Evrope, ali u HR, SLO.... ne ?


"About your problem, we have checked that due to the strict security inspection of the customs, all the batteries could not be shipped out to your place recently."
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: backspin on October 26, 2016, 06:26:20 pm
Cuj ove divljake :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCyCD2A61o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCyCD2A61o)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: George on October 26, 2016, 06:49:45 pm
Nije vam uopce lose :)

Tep, ova "kutija" na glavi ti ujedno sluzi i kao case za minija? :)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 17, 2016, 09:24:18 am

Quote
mislim da sa orginal nemozes, ali skuzio sam da je najbolje ga sam sklopiti. Ja bi uzeo ove dijelove, pod FC odaberes koji receiver koristis . Znaci imas ful manual. Ja cekam ove motorice da dodju pa cu ti reci jesu dobri ili ne, ali po testovima puno bolji od stock



frame - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Frame-p-1081723.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Frame-p-1081723.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


motori - http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-615-6x15mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-130mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Blade-Inductrix-p-1074157.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/4X-Chaoli-CL-615-6x15mm-Coreless-Motor-for-90mm-130mm-DIY-Micro-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Blade-Inductrix-p-1074157.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


flight controler - http://www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


propsi - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-p-1079425.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Blade-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-RC-Quadcopter-Spares-Parts-Blades-Propeller-p-1079425.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)


FPV - http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)




Jel ovo još uvijek Ok kombinacija za micra?


Mozda FX798T kamera? Vidim da nju najviše hvale uokolo...


Koje baterije uzmate?


Ovak nešto?


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10X-Flytown-Nano-tech-200mAh-3-7V-35C-70C-Lipo-battery-horizon-blade-inductrix-fpv-quadcopter/32698928153.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.FUVQY3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10037_10054_10059_10032_10099_10078_10079_10077_427_10103_10073_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051,searchweb201603_9&btsid=9fe666e6-f545-4a7c-9bc2-c8a050120870 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10X-Flytown-Nano-tech-200mAh-3-7V-35C-70C-Lipo-battery-horizon-blade-inductrix-fpv-quadcopter/32698928153.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.FUVQY3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10037_10054_10059_10032_10099_10078_10079_10077_427_10103_10073_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051,searchweb201603_9&btsid=9fe666e6-f545-4a7c-9bc2-c8a050120870)


Punite više komada u paraleli ili je netko isprobao ima serial harness na 6s pa sa balansiranjem?
...
LP Tihomir
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 17, 2016, 11:02:25 am
Je dobra ti je kombinacija. A dobra je i ona kamerica, mada svi uglavnom vozimo ove i slika je super. Sto se tice baterija, uzmi samo sa mylipo.de , ok jesu malo skuplje , ali bar rade. Uzmes one 205mah. Nikako ne uzimati nanotech. To je smece nevidjeno. Mikrac leti doslovno 15sec. Bolje uzet dvije mylipo.de nego pet ovih koje ce nakraju zavrsit sve u smecu
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 17, 2016, 01:15:29 pm
Cijena još ajde de, ali ako dobro vidim 16,00 € poštarina?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zlulic on December 18, 2016, 09:29:35 pm
Da, cijena poštarine od 16 € je i mene nakratko zaustavila u kupnji. Malo mi je bedasto da platim poštarinu više nego li baterije.

Ukoliko postoji još zainteresiranih za podjelu troška poštarine bilo bi zgodno da se jave. Vidio sam da se i drugi organiziraju za podjelu troškova.

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 18, 2016, 09:49:04 pm
Pa da tako je najbolje , ali stvarno za druge batke neznam koje preporuciti, samo kazem nemojte nanotech
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: kepy on December 19, 2016, 06:14:35 am
Ja sam uzeo ove, kao za početak i dobre su. Vrijeme leta sa fpv-om je oko 3 minute do 3,7 volta, zači mogu još malo. Koliki je sa ovim mylipo? http://www.ebay.com/itm/191955293937?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191955293937?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 19, 2016, 08:07:00 am
Ali ove su 600mah, prevelike za whoop, ti vjerovatno imas neki drugi mikrach, vjerovatno sa 8mm motorima. Pravi whoop ili E010 su teski oko 22g i maksimalna batka za njega je 205 ili cak 220. Jer njemu doslovno igra svaki gram, npr na stock E010 kad stavis FPV kombo koji je tezak cca 4-5g ovaj vise ne leti. Maknes FPV leti ko lud. Trebas bolje motore i batke da bi letio. A sa ovima mylipo.de leti tak 2min, pricamo o jurnjavi ne hoveru
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: kepy on December 19, 2016, 08:12:47 am
Upravu si. Moj je frame qx95 sa 8mm motorima tx02 fpv-om. Sa ovim baterijama leti solidno.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 19, 2016, 08:16:14 am
E da to vec igra, za njih cak i nije toliki problem za batkama. Rade ove sa banggooda, nanotech , vjerovatno zato sto je veci kapacitet, neznam. Ali i qx95 je duplo tezi mikro a prakticki nosi istu kameru, samo sto on ima jace motore pa to nije problem
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 19, 2016, 06:01:53 pm
cca 230mA potrošnja od 25mW FX798T vs cca 500mA od 200mW TX02? probao netko real life jel ima utjecaja? domet od ove 25 vs 200?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: justdude on December 20, 2016, 08:25:26 am
Uzmes tx03 pa saltas sam kolko trebas :D Ubro ga na preorderu, stoji na stolu  ::)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 20, 2016, 09:00:32 am
i 6g masa vs 4,5 na TX02  :D


BTW naručio sam vec TX02


Nego, ima tko zainteresiran za kupnju baterija sa mylipo.de?


Vidim da imaju i sa "novim" connectorom, većim :D PowerWhoopConnector




http://www.mylipo.de/Lipo-205mAh-37V-25C-50C-V2-special-Stecker-PWconnector-TinyWhoop (http://www.mylipo.de/Lipo-205mAh-37V-25C-50C-V2-special-Stecker-PWconnector-TinyWhoop)





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Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zlulic on December 21, 2016, 12:40:54 am
Da, ima zainteresiranih. Ja bih uzeo 4-5 komada od 205 mAh i rado podijelio troškove poštarine.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 23, 2016, 08:08:43 am
Dakle, ima još netko zainteresiran?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2016, 02:00:59 pm

Ima.
Ja bih trebao za avion: Lipo 2200mAh 11.1V (3S) 35C / 70C XT60 terminal.
Ne znam bih li jednu ili dvije...
Koliko sam skužio iskusnije kolege baterije treba kupovati isključivo sa mylipo.de, da su ostale baterije lošije kvalitete.
Pa radij eonda jednu/dvije dobre nego hrpu loših...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zlulic on December 23, 2016, 02:24:53 pm
Kada bi se javilo još jedan ili dva zainteresirana, onda bi podijeljena poštarina postala skoro pa zanemariv iznos. (recimo manji od cijene jedne male baterije.  :)  )



Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2016, 04:05:28 pm
Ili ako je raspodjela po masi, moje su baterije najteže i najviše trebam participirati u poštarini...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 23, 2016, 05:32:07 pm
@Daddy, ovdje smo pricali o malim 1s baterijama za tiny whoopa, beznam da li kolege mislile i na ostale baterije sa mylipo.de da jedine valjaju, samo napomena...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2016, 08:09:41 pm
Hvala na upozorenju/napomeni...
Skužio sam kako pričate o 1S baterijama za mikro quadove, no kako je mylipo.de baterije nahvalio kolega sekile, vodim se zdravim razumom pa pretpostavljam kako je ćelija, ćelija i kako bi po toj logici (sve?) njihove baterije trebale biti dobre.
Nemam nimalo iskustva sa Li-Po baterijama, pa ako je netko koristio njihove 2S, 3S, xS baterije, bio bih zahvalan na preporukama/pokudama.
Pokušao sam malo prosurfati po forumu i potražiti nekakav članak o usporedbi baterija (odnos cijena - kvaliteta), ali nisam našao ništa novijeg datuma...
Isprika ako spamam temu...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 23, 2016, 10:10:18 pm
A neznam kakve su ove vece batke sa mylipo.de, pretpostavljam da su super. Ali nekak si mislim da su ti za avion ok i batke sa Hobbykinga. Sa mikracima je problem jer nema bas jeftinih kvalitetnih celija, mozda i ima negdje ali ja neznam za njih
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Daddy on December 24, 2016, 06:47:38 pm
Kužim, vama je bitan omjer mase i energije za što dulji let, pa vam igraju najkvalitetnije baterije.
Ja bih htio imati nekakvu referencu, pa me svakak imajte u vidu za jednu 3S 2200mAh...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 24, 2016, 10:00:54 pm
Evo brushless verzija na 2S , sklepao ga jucer, LOS test prosao, jos samo FPV stavit i udri


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6SJcMP_mu4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6SJcMP_mu4)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on December 30, 2016, 08:04:17 am
Cleanflight ili betaflight koristite na Beecore FC? Pretpostavljam da su do sad istjunirani do savršenstva, pa može postavke ili CLI dump?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on December 31, 2016, 04:39:24 pm
Evo da ovu godinu ispratimo jednim letom sa micro brushlessom


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB7BWvSgrd0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB7BWvSgrd0)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: sekile on January 06, 2017, 06:44:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSALmPWIpyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSALmPWIpyY)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zed on January 07, 2017, 08:19:50 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u6xZH3q_Wg
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: IronicGti on January 10, 2017, 12:52:23 pm
brmm brmm mikrajoo pelajooo  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiHamIeYDQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiHamIeYDQ)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Mr.Ti on January 10, 2017, 05:34:52 pm
Može odgovor na pitanjce gore, BETA/CLEAN_filght i postavke?


Preatty please with cherry on top?  ;)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: IronicGti on January 10, 2017, 05:42:28 pm
aaa sorry nisam gledala gore  ;D

evo ti slika pidovlja dolje

motor pwm rate stavi na 1000
8/4 ti je looptime

to je ovak nabrzaka, na poslu sam jos

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zokizo on January 12, 2017, 01:16:22 pm
koliko vam je tezak tiny whoop i kolko vrijeme leta imate


moj s baterijom 250mah ima 32gr


btw sad procitao od sekile-a za nanotech da su lose a ja taman narucio 5 kom
sta stvarno su tako lose i imaju malo vrijeme leta
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-nano-tech-300mah-1s-45-90c-lipo-pack-fits-nine-eagles-solo-pro-100.html



Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: mr Rockwell on January 24, 2017, 12:19:18 am
Evo mali how to.  Nadam se da će nekom pomoći.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2yAyeqJGsc
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: IronicGti on January 24, 2017, 01:07:22 pm
Odlican Rock
evo ja vec sastavio svoga  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6sAfpCxop0&t=14s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6sAfpCxop0&t=14s)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Toki on January 30, 2017, 02:55:20 pm
http://m.banggood.com/Eachine-Aurora-90-90mm-Mini-FPV-Racing-Drone-BNF-wF3-OSD-10A-BLheli_S-Dshot600-5_8G-25MW-48CH-VTX-p-1114799.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q (http://m.banggood.com/Eachine-Aurora-90-90mm-Mini-FPV-Racing-Drone-BNF-wF3-OSD-10A-BLheli_S-Dshot600-5_8G-25MW-48CH-VTX-p-1114799.html?p=HU24002360134201508Q)

Izašla i rtf verzija pa i ja naručio da imam s cim zujit po doma ;)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: MarioMT on January 30, 2017, 03:56:09 pm
Imam 9XR Pro sa OrangeRX JR modulom. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F90770%5F%5FOrangeRX%5FDSMX%5FDSM2%5FCompatible%5F2%5F4Ghz%5FTransmitter%5FModule%5FV1%5F2%5FJR%5FTurnigy%5FTaranis%5Fcompatible%5F.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F90770%5F%5FOrangeRX%5FDSMX%5FDSM2%5FCompatible%5F2%5F4Ghz%5FTransmitter%5FModule%5FV1%5F2%5FJR%5FTurnigy%5FTaranis%5Fcompatible%5F.html)
Potrebna je Spektrum DSMX 2.4GHz kompatibilna stanica (bitan note za OrangeRX modul -  firmware treba biti 1.2 ili novije).
Znači,ovo radi samo sa Spektrum stanicama i i njima sličnim npr:Orange T-six,DX6i i ostale DX-e  sa DSMX protokolo?ili sam u krivu?Ili pravu?Sviđa mi  se tako nešto maleno a da nije previše skupo.Dali se može staviti neki drugi RECEIVER na taj micro-mini quad ili baš mora biti taj DSMX?Hvala  :)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on February 11, 2017, 08:03:32 am
Ok, koju onda kameru kupiti? Gledam sad na BG, ima ih milion slicnih... Eachine TX02, TX03, EF02, QX95, AIO... ovo ono.
Koju vi koristite?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Sys on February 11, 2017, 10:06:54 am

Ovu kupi, imam je i ja, 3,35g, slika odlična! S obzirom na veličinu i whippicu, nema konkurencije!

http://www.banggood.com/CM275T-5_8G-25mW-48CH-NTSCPAL-Mini-VTX-600TVL-FPV-Camera-for-DIY-Micro-FPV-Racer-p-1102464.html?p=EA23033594492201601U (http://www.banggood.com/CM275T-5_8G-25mW-48CH-NTSCPAL-Mini-VTX-600TVL-FPV-Camera-for-DIY-Micro-FPV-Racer-p-1102464.html?p=EA23033594492201601U)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on February 11, 2017, 06:18:47 pm
Jel to radi sa Fat Shark 5.8 receiverom ili treba neki drugi?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zed on February 11, 2017, 07:16:54 pm
Jel to radi sa Fat Shark 5.8 receiverom ili treba neki drugi?


Dela s kojim god jer ima sve bandove i kanale!
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on February 11, 2017, 08:41:30 pm
E jbg, na BG je out of stock  >:( , koja druga je ok?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zed on February 12, 2017, 11:37:27 am
http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-QX90-Micro-Racing-Quadcopter-Spare-Parts-5_8g-25MW-32CH-VTX-520TVL-CMOS-14-Camera-3-In-1-p-1079391.html?p=M50705946028201412VX (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-QX90-Micro-Racing-Quadcopter-Spare-Parts-5_8g-25MW-32CH-VTX-520TVL-CMOS-14-Camera-3-In-1-p-1079391.html?p=M50705946028201412VX)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: kepy on February 12, 2017, 01:43:41 pm
Imam ti ja jednu potpuno novu TX03. Javi se u PM ako te zanima.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on February 17, 2017, 09:05:51 am
Pozdrav ekipa,

eto riješio sam kameru (hvala kepy)!
Smontirao ju, kad ono malac jedva da se odlijepi od poda. Na ful throttle leti, ali je jako trom i stalno se borim da ne propadne. Znači tih dodatnih 4 grama od kamere mu je previše.
E sad, to su stock motori i jadna baterijica od 150mah, ali ok, mislio sam da će to ipak letiti puno bolje, samo će biti kratko zbog baterije, ali ovo je koma.
Propove sam srezao sa 4 na 2 kraka i bez kamere stvarno leti bolje i duže. S kamerom nikakve razlike.

Vidim da postoje kao neki "bolji" motori, ali reviewovi pišu da zapravo nema nikakve razlike u odnosu na stock motore.

hmmm, šta sad?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Sys on February 17, 2017, 09:24:20 am
Najvjerovatnije te baterija zeza, ako imaš mogućnosti posudi dobru batku i probaj.


Mi koristimo ove: http://www.mylipo.de/Lipo-205mAh-37V-25C-50C-msr-Nano-CPX-QX-TinyWhoop (http://www.mylipo.de/Lipo-205mAh-37V-25C-50C-msr-Nano-CPX-QX-TinyWhoop)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: mr Rockwell on February 17, 2017, 09:29:19 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jWOMdXVGQM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jWOMdXVGQM)


@Vlatko
Ovo će ti riješiti problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5aOLa2BPnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5aOLa2BPnI)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Sys on February 17, 2017, 09:33:22 am

Evo i moj :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw-rj5Yebmg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw-rj5Yebmg)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: zlatcom on February 17, 2017, 10:37:51 am
Sys dobra glazbena podloga, Like za Fit  ;)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Sys on February 17, 2017, 12:49:53 pm
Tnx  ;) ;)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on February 17, 2017, 04:07:46 pm
Hvala na info ekipa, konektori i baterije naručene.
A naručio sam ipak i druge motore sa više kv, pa ćemo vidjeti.


pozz



Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Ikarus on February 24, 2017, 10:45:41 am
dali je neko probao ove baterije na mikračima ? po speckama djeluju ok ali volio bi misljenje iz iskustva
(https://hobbyking.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/565x414/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/legacy/catalog/19116.jpg)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on March 15, 2017, 08:52:21 am
Stigla napokon i CM275 kamera i razlika je ogromna. Dakle, sa TX03 se jedva odlijepi od zemlje, a sa ovom leti super.
Prema specifikacijama TX03 ima 6g, a ova CM275 samo 3,35g. Mislim da je to za sada najlakša kamera na tržištu.
Očigledno je da za ovako male quadiće svaki gram čini veliku razliku. Slika sa TX03 je možda za nijansu bolja, ali za letenje po kući je sasvim OK.

U međuvremenu su stigli i novi motori i baterije, ali prvo sam htio vidjeti koja je razlika samo s kamerom.


Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on March 16, 2017, 04:10:09 pm
Ja imam iskustva s tim E010 (ili JJRC H36 - to su potpuno isti quadovi)  i CM275T kamerom - nisam bas pratio thread, pa ne znam je li netko vec preporucio, pa ako nije ja cu: nabavi jedan Furibee F36 i u njega preseli E010 plocu ako zelis upravljati npr. Devo kontrolerom (ili koristi F36 s originalnom plocom ako nemas Devo ili neki kontroler na koji se moze bindati E010 jer deviation firmware jos nema podrsku za F36 za Devo). F36 okvir je laski za gram, a F36 motori su cini mi se 16000Kv i nose i kameru od 4-4.5g bez problema. Od kamera koje idu na vrh ploce quada preprocujem FX789T (ja je imam na F36, slika je prefektna i daleko bolja od CM275T, trosi malo struje i 25mW je tako da nije sve u tezini vec je nesto i u jacini transmitera, a i upotrosnji struje samog TXa - CM275T trosi jako puno tako da za motore ostaje malo i onda se sve skupa jedva odlijepi od zemlje ili prebrzo trosi - imat ces malo minuta na stock bateriji ili ce ti vrlo brzo poceti gubiti snagu tj. nakom mozda 2 minute neces ga moci bas odrzati u zraku vec ce poceti padati kod brzih skretanja u zavojima... vidi ovdje mjerenja: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=565212 (https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=565212) - CM275T je ekvivalent Boldclash F01).

Ja sam se "navukao" na tzv. "low profile" buildove gdje je i kamera naprijed tako da gore nema nista i moj E010 u F36 tijelu s F36 motorima tanak je kao original i sa 150Mah 45C baterijom (preporucujem 45C jer daje veci protok struje da se opsluzi i kamera i motori i time sve radi puno bolje) tezak je 22g i ide do 3m i 50 sec. po kuci (ako "nagarim" onda 3:30) i bez problema uleti ispod ormara ako ne pazim... Koristim Boldclash F02 - malo manje trosi nego CMT275T, slika je isto tako-tako, ali je odlicna za "low profile" izradu.

Inace, kamera koja trosi najmanje struje i omjer tezine i potrosnje je najbolji je cini mi se Eachine EF-02 - ali ima obrnuti polaritet ako se koristi neki drugi konektor osim onog s kojim dolazi  pa treba paziti.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: vlatko on March 20, 2017, 06:07:37 pm
Sad to sve lijepo leti, ali imam smetnji u slici. Kakav "filterčić" da napravim da to popeglam, a da ne natovarim puno grama?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on March 20, 2017, 10:13:35 pm
To su neki tzv. -"pololu" filteri koji se dodaju na transmiter ili kameru (ne znam tocno gdje u lancu idu) - ali sve te combo kamere to vec imaju osim ako nije pregorio ili je preslab... Ja recimo imam dvije  CM275T (Boldclash F01 - ista stvar s drugom etiketom :) ) - jedna radi OK i na Furibee F36 i na E010, a druga samo na E010 - na svim ostalim quadcopterima na koje sam je stavio ima smetnje - na tom primjerku ili taj filter ne radi ili je slabiji pa "probija" cim su jaci motori...

Uglavnom pogledaj pololu filter i kako ugraditi ako ti se da "zezati" s tim - mislim da je to previse posla posebno dodati na combo - ne znam ni da li moze - treba vidjeti na youtubeu... Ako radis sam cijeli sklop (kamera, transmiter itd.) onda imas puno tutoriala za to (ukljucujuci i kako se dodaje filter).

i da - ima jos jedna opcija - pogoniti kameru s drugom baterijom i nece biti problema (ako se razdvoji napajanje, onda nema smetnji -  ne pitaj previse zasto jer nisam elektronicar  :-X )   - negdje sam procitao da je netko koristio LiPo iz bluetooth slusalice za napajanje kamere - te baterije su oko 1.5g sto daje na tezini, ali ta CMT je taman toilko laksa da s LiPo iz bluetootha dobijes otprilike tezinu klasicne AIO kamere,a nemas smetnje bez obzira na filter i jos uz to baterija koja pogoni motore ne trosi se na kameru pa vjerojatno imas i duzi let... Nisma probao jer nemam bluetooth slusalicu... Imam samo male baterijice iz FQ777-124 nano drona, ali te su malo vise od 2g pa mi je to pretesko...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 12, 2018, 03:53:18 am
Preporuka za neki jeftini whoop? Gledam između ova dva E013 i E010S. Kolko sam shvatio E010S ima F3 Brush Flight Controller kojeg je moguće konfigurirati (imati acro mod), i moguće voziti na stanice Flysky/Frsky, dok E013 je tako kako je...? Ali i razlika je u cijeni za pola. Koja je vaša preporuka (neki treći?)
E013 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pre-order-Eachine-E013-Micro-FPV-Racing-Quadcopter-With-5-8G-1000TVL-40CH-Camera-VR006-VR/32825469796.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.3a666e7ezPYAtd&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_319_317_5733420_10696_10924_453_10084_10925_454_10083_10926_5733620_10618_10920_10921_10922_10307_10820_5733120_10301_5733220_10821_10303_537_536_5733320_5733520_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103-5733620,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=16c4eba6-e5ae-4087-92f1-ce471b625683-0&algo_pvid=16c4eba6-e5ae-4087-92f1-ce471b625683)

E010S (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Eachine-E010S-PRO-65mm-5-8G-40CH-800TVL-Camera-F3-Built-in-OSD-High-Hold-Mode/32863124756.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.59.2a6b43dcgf1KZj&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_319_317_10696_10084_453_10924_10083_454_10925_10926_10618_10920_10921_10307_10922_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_5733313_10059_10884_5733213_5733113_10887_100031_321_5733413_322_10103_5733613_5733513,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=7d51d717-10ea-4ce5-b4f7-bf3888bf1067-8&algo_pvid=7d51d717-10ea-4ce5-b4f7-bf3888bf1067)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 12, 2018, 10:58:04 am
Ako ti se bas oce nesto s receiverom za tvoju stanicu, onda ti u najbolje ic na brushless jer se meni se cini da su svi ti whoopovi debelo precijenjeni od kad je dosla Mobula 7 za 85-90 dolara (brushless, radi na 2s, cudo za po kuci i po vani).



Ako ti ne smeta onaj mali stock kontroler (ja sam na svog zalemio antenu sa starog rutera i ide 200+ metara i kroz sve zidove u kuci), Eachine e011c/JJRC H37 (oni s Djedom Mrazom) su ti svim dovoljni. Imaju 7 mm motore i mislim da nijedan drugi nema vece stock, znaci tesko ces dobit vecu snagu i na ovima od 60+ dolara, a moguce je flashat fc za acro. Za 12 dolara (i manje ako si strpljiv i ulovis neki popust) i jos maksimalno 15 za AIO kameru od oko tri grama dobijes isto ko i sa e010s pro, ako ne i bolje. Jos si nabavis neke 45c baterije (meni su na 6mm 260mah ipak malo teske, 150 bi bile bolje, a na 7mm nisam stigao probat) ili neke ozbiljnije (navodno su MyLipo iz Njemacke top top kvaliteta).

Eachine E011C
https://banggood.app.link/lKV2encuMR (https://banggood.app.link/lKV2encuMR)


Caddx Beetle V1
https://banggood.app.link/2DVXPCJuMR (https://banggood.app.link/2DVXPCJuMR)

JMT Split
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32924412120.html? (https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32924412120.html?)


5PCS Eachine E010-0006 150MAH 45C
https://banggood.app.link/l6l4jjjvMR (https://banggood.app.link/l6l4jjjvMR)

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 12, 2018, 11:20:20 am
Zapravo kameru (600TVL (https://www.banggood.com/600TVL-8_0MP-14-2_8mm-CMOS-FPV-170-Degree-Wide-Anlge-Lens-Camera-PALNTSC-p-984345.html?rmmds=myorder&ID=44069&cur_warehouse=CN)) i transmiter (TX5813 (https://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-10mW-Wireless-Audio-Video-Transmitter-Module-TX5813-p-84761.html?p=EH10221611330201505Q&cur_warehouse=CN)) vec imam i radi ok. Al me zanima da ovi kao E011C ili E010 nemaju neke "dummy" fly kontrolere koji se ne mogu flashati? Koja je raslika izmedu E011 i E011C?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 12, 2018, 12:45:23 pm

Koliko je tezak transmiter? Ta kombinacija ti je mozda teska za ovakvu upotrebu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRfEtujo7K0 Nisam previse ulazio u to i pokusavao, ali moze ih se flashati.


Usporedbi ti je pun youtube, a pretpostavljam da razlike nema, jedino C ima zvucnik hahaha.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 12, 2018, 04:06:13 pm
Ako hoces Silverware acro, onda zanemari E011 jer mislim da ta ploca vise nije kompatibilna (mislim da je izasla nova serija s drugacijim hardwareom i da se stara vise ne moze nabaviti).


Dakle, ako zelis jeftini Silverware acro brushed whoop, uzmi radije BWhoop B03Pro + neki AIO za FPV + STlink za flash. Nema lemljenja nicega (kod E011 moras lemiti da bi mogao spojiti STLink)  sve se spaja na konektore - od kamere do flashanja. No ti whoopovi kortse bayang protokol tako da ti treba i multimodul za TX koji to podrzava... Ili uzmes AlienWhoop Zero i neki od drugih zeljenih receivera, ali onda imas jos dosta posla sve to pospajati

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 12, 2018, 04:29:47 pm

Jesi siguran za ovo za novu plocicu? Ja sam negdje procitao da 011 sad dolazi sa istom plocicom kao i 011c, a prije je imao drugaciju, a jedina razlika je raspored pinova pa nekima nije radio stlink dok nisu drugacije pospajali.

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 12, 2018, 05:47:39 pm
Sad zbilja nisam siguran - morao bih pogledati na RCGroups... Ma, prestao sam pratiti E011 od kad sam presao na B03. I svakako bih radije preporucio B03Pro (a moze i B03 standardna s barometrom) plocu jer ipak je 100% kompatibilna sa Silverwareom jer je i Boldclash prodaje kao Silverware kompatibilnu... :) A cini mi se da je isti gyro gore, koliko znam (a to je najvaznije jer taj MPU-6050 je odlican)

http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-bwhoop-b03-pro-micro-drone-p92.html (http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-bwhoop-b03-pro-micro-drone-p92.html) <- na eBayu se moze naci i puno jeftinije, a i moze se kupiti zasebno - posebno okvir za 2-3 USD, ploca se moze kupiti zasebno za 7-8 USD, pa jaci Boldclash 19000kv 7x16 motori (zapravo su oko 17000kv sto je skroz OK :) ), a mozda i kamera s canopyem koja odmah pase na quad: http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-b06-05-f02h-camera-vtx-aio-800tvl-5-8g-25mw-48ch-clear-canopy-4-5g-55-44-16mm-p128.html (http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-b06-05-f02h-camera-vtx-aio-800tvl-5-8g-25mw-48ch-clear-canopy-4-5g-55-44-16mm-p128.html) - tako da se moze proci i prilicno jeftino ako se ide "na dijelove"
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 13, 2018, 01:12:04 am
Nije bolje onda uzeti nesto tipa tiny6 (https://m.banggood.com/KINGKONG-TINY6-65mm-Micro-FPV-Quacopter-With-615-Brushed-Motors-Baced-on-F3-Brush-Flight-Controller-p-1134635.html) koji sve to podrzava bec prckanja po quadu? Dok sve pokupujes kaj je potrebno za namjestanje dodes do cjene gotovog...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 13, 2018, 01:19:03 am
Sve ovisi sto se zeli. Tiny6 je Betaflight 6mm whoop. BWhoop i E011 su 7mm Silverware kompatibilni...
No da - za nekog tko mozda zeli "start paket", najbolje je uzeti nesto gotovo i s Betaflightom (ako ne zeli "zezati" se sa Silverwareom, iako je Silverware za brushed mikroe bolje rjesenje od Betaflighta jer je ciljano pisan za te tipove quadova).


Mozda Tiny7 radije (7mm motori su ipak bolja investicija)? Ne bih preporucio brushless whoopove jer uglavnom imaju motore koji nisu bas otporni na udarce (tvrde na vise mjesta po internetu - ja nisam probao), a nisu bas jeftini... Osim ako se ne misli padati :)  i ako se ima dovoljno prakse da se moze letjeti bez rusenja i jacih sudara - onda je neki brushless whoop najbolji izbor.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 21, 2018, 07:19:01 pm
Sto kazete na Eachine E013 + naocale za 65$ na black friday. Jel se moze njega kako dobiti u acro?

Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 21, 2018, 10:38:06 pm
Koliko znam, ne moze acro, a nije ni Betaflight ni Silverware kompatibilan pa nista od flashanja  :(
A ne moze se koristiti ni nikakav "normalni" TX (ima nepodrzani protokol pa mozes koristiti samo njegov kontroler)


https://oscarliang.com/eachine-e013-fpv-micro-drone/ (https://oscarliang.com/eachine-e013-fpv-micro-drone/)

Naocale se mogu kupiti posebno za otprilike istu cijenu tako da mislim da se ne isplati...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 22, 2018, 12:37:41 pm
Mislim da sam odlučil, sutra bude za 53$ Eachine (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-Eachine-E010S-PRO-65mm-5-8G-40CH-800TVL-Camera-F3-Built-in-OSD-High/32862577508.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.18.79821c686UMpvc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_5734615_319_317_5734813_10696_5734713_10924_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10920_10921_10307_10922_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103_5734515,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8aada081-365c-43a1-bc10-36331ecf72ec-2&algo_pvid=8aada081-365c-43a1-bc10-36331ecf72ec)E010S PRO, kompatibilan sa flysky i ima Lemon F3 Flight Controler
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 22, 2018, 03:23:47 pm
On je sa 6mm motorima - dakle, iskljucivo za unutra (moze i van, ali ne po vjetru).


I brushed je - dakle, nakon 2-3 sata leta (a i manje) ide zamjena motora... (ali bar su jeftini :) )


UPDATE: jesi vidio ovo? https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-QX65-with-5_8G-48CH-700TVL-Camera-F3-Built-in-OSD-65mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Drone-Quadcopter-p-1257033.html?rmmds=detail-left-hotproducts__2&ID=522764517338&cur_warehouse=CN (https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-QX65-with-5_8G-48CH-700TVL-Camera-F3-Built-in-OSD-65mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Drone-Quadcopter-p-1257033.html?rmmds=detail-left-hotproducts__2&ID=522764517338&cur_warehouse=CN)



Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 23, 2018, 02:46:48 am
sad kolko čitam, ovi sa brushed motorima kratko traju motori radi četkica. Ako gledam qx65 (https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-QX65-with-5_8G-48CH-700TVL-Camera-F3-Built-in-OSD-65mm-Micro-FPV-Racing-Drone-Quadcopter-p-1257033.html?rmmds=detail-left-hotproducts__2&ID=522764517338&cur_warehouse=CN), onda za 5$ više ima Crazybee 65mm (https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-US65-UK65-65mm-Whoop-FPV-Racing-Drone-BNF-Crazybee-F3-Flight-Controller-OSD-6A-Blheli_S-ESC-p-1339561.html?p=9I291610415065201704&ID=555609555607&cur_warehouse=CN) koji je brushless, a praktički isti whoop veličinom i izgledom.Dok opet Mobula7 (https://www.banggood.com/Happymodel-Mobula7-75mm-Crazybee-F3-Pro-OSD-2S-Whoop-FPV-Racing-Drone-w-700TVL-Camera-BNF-p-1357971.html?rmmds=search&ID=519232529569&cur_warehouse=CN) radi 2s je zvjer za sve te male whopove koju je spomenuo jakov1. Gledam svaku večer i čitam i neznam što odabrati, a opet da ne bacam previše novaca za povremenu razbibrigu letenjem po kući i dvorištu.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 23, 2018, 10:27:45 am


Da - brushed motori kratko traju... Ali poanta je da su brushed motori jeftini pa nije problem nabaviti hrpu i mijenjati, dok brushless nisu bas jeftini. A micro brushless motori kakvi obicno idu u te male whoopove  su prilicno "krhki" i znaju crknuti nakon par padova (navodno, svi motori manji od 1103 se ne isplate jer su lomljivi i ne trpe previse "stresa") tako da ti se moze desiti da brushless motor krepa prije nego brushed (kako sam citao online kad sam i sam odlucivao o tome sto da nabavim).


Mobula7 je, po komentarima koje citam uokolo, apsolutno najbolji izbor - ali, po meni, preskupo... :( - a opet, Crazybee65 se cini kao super povoljan, ali ima jos manje - 0603 motore... hm... a ako uzmes odmah 2 rezervna motora, izadje te onda jos oko 15 USD vise - pa se svede opet na oko 95-100USD...


Znam da ne pomazem previse i samo produbljujem dilemu... :(  Ali ako si spretan i ne padas/sudaras se puno, radije uzmi brushless i par rezervnih motora.

EDIT: sto se brushless whoopova tice, imas i ovaj: http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-b06-fpv-racing-drone-f3-blheli-esc-15000kv-m0703-800tvl-camera-25mw-48ch-vtx-p133.html (http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-b06-fpv-racing-drone-f3-blheli-esc-15000kv-m0703-800tvl-camera-25mw-48ch-vtx-p133.html)
Ali je rasprodan (mozda eBay nudi povoljnije...)




Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 24, 2018, 04:34:09 am
Odluka je pala i idem na prvo predloženu kombinaciju. Išao sam na jeftino, jer nema mi smisla za sad dati 100$ za nešto što ću malo letjeti pa onda možda zapostaviti neko vrijeme, pogotovo ako se potrga, dok ne popravim.

- idem na whoop  BoldClash BWHOOP B03 Pro (https://www.ebay.com/itm/BoldClash-BWHOOP-B03-Pro-4-Channel-716-Motor-61500rpm-EDF-RC-Quadcopter/232639916576?hash=item362a6b6a20:g:w8sAAOSwXMZaXAt0:rk:7:pf:0) sa ebaya za 18$ (dok je na njihovoj stanici 21$)
- st-link (https://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-Link-V2-Programming-Unit-mini-STM8-STM32-Emulator-Downloader-M89-New/401088363326?hash=item5d62babb3e:g:8soAAOSwZVlXiICF:rk:2:pf:0) za 2.5$ za programiranje
- kameru ću uzeti Caddx Beetel (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Caddx-Beetel-V1-5-8G-48CH-25mW-CMOS-800TVL-170-Degree-Mini-FPV-Camera-AIO-LED/32949025290.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.23.15606d0dFYGNXB&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_319_317_10696_10084_453_10924_454_10083_10618_10920_10921_10307_10922_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=4ad44b91-7612-42f7-961b-572055598a9a-3&algo_pvid=4ad44b91-7612-42f7-961b-572055598a9a)koja je 2.9g i dođe samo 11.7$, dok je njegova F02H Pro (https://www.ebay.com/itm/BoldClash-F02H-Pro-FPV-AIO-Camera-for-Bwhoop-B03-B06-Inductrix-E011-TINY7-Clear/223163303250?hash=item33f591c552:g:XNUAAOSwtc9bq1Eo:rk:1:pf:0) sa poklopcem 5.5g i dođe 20$   
-> gledam i BoldClash F08 FPV (http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-f-08-dvr-5-44g-vtx-camera-fpv-aio-p34.html) Micro AIO Camera with DVR koja je trenutno na 13$ ali je rasprodana. Jedino me kod nje muči tih 480ma potrošnje što bi sigurno dosta smanjilo vrijeme leta?

Sve skupa ~32$ okvirno i mislim da bude zadovoljilo moje povremeno letuckanje. Još pitanje, što znači u opisu (Functions: Turn Left/Turn Right,To Speed Up,Pitch,Roll,Yaw, 3D ) taj zadnji 3D?

Hvala Vam na savjetima, čekam još odgovor/mišljenje na ovo i onda naručujem
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 24, 2018, 10:55:53 am



Samo da podsjetim (to sam vec napomenuo u jednom replyu prije) prije nego krenes u kupnju: TX ti mora podrzavati bayang protokol jer B03pro radi na bayang protokolu. Imas multimodul za TX? Ako ne, mozes koristiti TX koji dodje s B03pro, ali to je igracka, a ne TX...

> gledam i BoldClash F08 FPV Micro AIO Camera with DVR koja je trenutno na 13$ ali je rasprodana. Jedino me kod nje muči tih 480ma potrošnje što bi sigurno dosta smanjilo vrijeme leta?

Da - 480mAh je previse! Ja osobno koristim AKK BS2, Boldclash F02 VTX ("mixano" s KingKong 800tvl kamerom) i Eachine EF-02/LST kamere - koriste vrlo malo mAh, a dobra je slika...

>Još pitanje, što znači u opisu (Functions: Turn Left/Turn Right,To Speed Up,Pitch,Roll,Yaw, 3D ) taj zadnji 3D?

Pod 3D se misli mogucnost letenja "naopako" (kad se quad okrene za 180, ostane tako, throttle onda drugacije reagira itd. pa mozes izvoditi akrobacije naopacke kao s helikopterima - vidi na youtubeu Zoe FPV (https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=943&ei=Rx75W4jELuqBgAaZsZzgBQ&q=zoe+fpv+3d&oq=zoe+fpv&gs_l=psy-ab.3.1.0j0i67j0l4j0i22i30l4.949627.950537..952430...0.0..0.107.660.5j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i22i10i30._4QxIH5Pdfw) - najpoznatija zena iz FPV svijeta koja ujedno i leti quadcoptere iskljucivo u "3D modu")- ali taj quad to nema (ima Floureon H101, Eachine H8S... postoje verzije Silverwarea i za to - od tog je sve i pocelo tj. od obicnog H8, pa na 3D pa na kraju tek B03... :) ) - to su Kinezi stavili cisto radi reklame :) ili pod 3D smatraju acro mod (nekad se to poistovjecuje, a nije uopce isto)


UPDATE - vezano uz ST-LINK - pazi koji narucujes jer s nekima ima problema - detalji: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=36163028&postcount=1368 (https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=36163028&postcount=1368)

UPDATE2 - i ako se odlucis za B03pro, odmah uzmi i 2-3 seta propelera, ali ne za B03pro vec za Eachine E011 ili E010 (s banggooda) ili Furibeeovi (s gearbesta) itd. jer su bolji, izdrzljiviji i cvrsci nego B03pro (a skroz isti sto se tezine, performansi i velicine tice). Ja sam svoje, nakon sto su poceli "odletati" s motora, zamijenio s Eachineovim i Furibeeovim i vise nikakvih problema...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 24, 2018, 11:14:51 am
Imam flysky i6 (koji je dosao sa wizardom x220). Planirao sam uzeti tx multiprotocol modul za njega isto par dolara)
Al zabsad je i njegov kontoler valjda ok
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 24, 2018, 11:49:10 am
Bolja ti je mozda ona druga kamera koju sam ti poslao, jer ako nemas  mount za kameru, ovu Beetle ce ti bit teze namjestit pod kutem dok kod razdvojene kameru samo zataknes u okvir i zalijepis kako zelis, a odasiljac mozes gurnut ili nekako ispod plocice ili jednostavno gore, a taj raspored ti povoljno utjece na karakteristike leta.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 24, 2018, 04:48:16 pm

Al zabsad je i njegov kontoler valjda ok


Za acro bas i ne... Mislim, moguce je, ali napatit ces se.


Bolja ti je mozda ona druga kamera koju sam ti poslao, jer ako nemas  mount za kameru, ovu Beetle ce ti bit teze namjestit pod kutem dok kod razdvojene kameru samo zataknes u okvir i zalijepis kako zelis, a odasiljac mozes gurnut ili nekako ispod plocice ili jednostavno gore, a taj raspored ti povoljno utjece na karakteristike leta.


Mount je dobra stvar, ali ne i nuzna - u kineskim ducanima za 10-tak kn imas dvostranu samoljepljivu spuzvastu traku + spuzvasta pjena od samog pakiranja u kojem dodje quad i ostalo + gumice za dodatno ucvrstiti +  malo hot-glue oko baze antene... I to je to... :)

UPDATE: evo kako moji B03Pro izgledaju (zanemarite tragove trave i hrpu lijepljenja - trose se puno po dvoristu :-\ ) - oba su "props out", jedan ima AKK BS2 gore na ploci i zastitu od plasticne vezice, a drugi "low profile mount" (Boldclash F02 VTX + Kingkong kamera). Prilazem i ST-Link koji koristim i konektor koji sam "sklepao" za flashanje (od obicnog 3-pinskog)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 24, 2018, 05:38:21 pm
Ma znam, ja na svom koristim cicak, ali moras izvodit kerefeke da ju nagnes, pri padovima se moze pomaknut, a i dodas koji gram dok za odvojenu trebas dvije kapi vruceg ljepila i vise nema nikakvih problema.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 24, 2018, 05:43:22 pm
Ma, kerefeke i jesu poanta! Obozavam eksperimente!  :)
Ma, najbolje do sada mi je letio quad koji sam napravio od stapica za raznjice! Tako stabilno ni jedan do sad nisam uspio odvozit'... Ali nakon 5-6 padova, jasno je kako je to zavrsilo  ::) :)


Ali skretoh s teme... pardon...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 25, 2018, 01:42:16 pm
uzeo danas bw b03 pro sa ebaya za 16$ (nasao jos jeftinije nego jucer), jmt split cam , st-link, 3 seta propelera za e011 i iRX6 multiprotocol. Hvala Vam na pomoći izbora. Nego može još savjet oko baterijica, pošto dolazi samo jedna s njim od 260mAh? Neke s jačim C predpostavljam
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 25, 2018, 07:30:45 pm
Dobijes odgovor kad objavis video s kamere jer ga se nigdje na internetu ne moze naci ;)


Evo sad citam da je original baterija koju imas zapravo 300 mAh makar pise 260 tako da ce moze bolje podnest 260 mAh nego moj F36 na kojem nisam vidio apsolutno nikakvu promjenu sa 260 mAh 45C u odnosu na stock bateriju. Valjda je dodatna tezina pojela tih 10 ili 15 C razlike jer su na rcgroups hvalili takve baterije od 150 mAh. Ako ces te kupovat, pazi da pise E010, a ne E010S jer je razlicit plug. JJRC ima slicne baterije, ali navodno su losije. Imas na Banggoodu i URUAV 250 mAh na kojima pise 40/80 C makar u to ne vjerujem jer su teske jednako kao i ove Eachine, 7 grama, ali za 3 dolara po komadu vrijedi probat. Gaoneng (GNB) su takoder dobre baterije. Preporucio bi ti mylipo.de jer su to stvarno premium baterije, ali malo je skupa postarina.


Da ne lijepim brdo linkova, samo upisi u Banggood 250 ili 260 mAh i pogledaj sta ti najvise odgovara.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on November 25, 2018, 09:55:49 pm
ove URUAV 3.8V 250mAh 40C/80C (https://www.banggood.com/5Pcs-URUAV-3_8V-250mAh-40C80C-1S-Lipo-Battery-PH2_0-Plug-for-Eachine-US65-UK65-QX65-URUAV-UR65-p-1364758.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN)su tanke i duge, pa nisam siguran kolko se mogu namjestiti u središte whoopa da ne smeta konektor baterije. Osim ako ih ne stavim ispod pomoću gumice ili vezice
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 26, 2018, 10:05:03 am
Tvrde da stock baterije jesu 300mAh, ali ja se ne bih kladio... A i C i je daleko nizi od onog sto pise... Ali bit ce OK za npr. 2 minute ludovanja. Nakon toga osjetno se osjeti pad performansi (zapravo, ovisi o kameri, tezini, a i sto i kako radis s quadom :) - za neke normalne aktivnosti bez pretjerivanja sa "splitovima" i poniranjima s punim gasom, izdrze i preko 2:30)


Takodjer, stock baterija nema bas neki vijek trajanja - 20-30 ciklusa uvrh glave. Dugacke "whoop" baterije bez problema stanu kad se proreze rub na kraju sjedista za baterije - naprave se kao mala "vrata" (mogu poslati sliku kasnije - nemam sad pri ruci ni quad ni s cim slikati :( ) pa se onda progura. Ali onda moras zalemiti i novi PH2.0 konektor na plocu jer neces mocu ustekati u konektor na samoj ploci. A za te uske je i sjediste malo uze nego te baterije pa treba obloziti spuzvom ili gumicom pricvrstiti. I da - ako se proreze, onda ne moze vise "low profile mount" tj. kamera onda ide iskljucivo na vrh, na plocicu.


Inace, ja koristim ove: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-nano-tech-300mah-1s-45-90c-lipo-pack-fits-nine-eagles-solo-pro-100.html (https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-nano-tech-300mah-1s-45-90c-lipo-pack-fits-nine-eagles-solo-pro-100.html)
Polaritet im je obrnut pa svakoj sam morao okrenuti zice u konektoru + Losi konektor je.. Koristim te jer ih imam 7 komada (zapravo imao sam - dvije sam vec "ubio" :( ) i koristim na ne-whoop buildovima pa mi je bilo OK koristiti ih i na BWhoopu. Stanu u "battery tray" (cak i ne prorezan - malo vire, ali ne puno) uz malo gumice okolo - isto mogu poslati sliku kasnije... Inace, ima slicnih i s PH2 konektorom... Sto se tice banggooda, jedino Gaoeng je OK (kako se tvrdi po netu) - ali koliko znam, banggood vec duze ne salje Lipo u HR :(


I kad je vec spomenut mylipo.de  - da li netko i kako narucuje s mylipo.de? Da - postarina je paprena - ali sad vise ne salju ni oni u HR vec preusmjeravaju na slovensku stranicu koja prodaje njihove baterije, a Slovenci ne primaju paypal vec traze uplatu putem banke (!) ... ocajno stanje...  :(
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on November 26, 2018, 12:37:55 pm
Banggood salje/ne salje. Nisu kao Gearbest da ne salju uopce, ali i kod njih treba imat tajming. Ja sam svoje narucio i dosle su bez problema, a za tjedan dana vise nije prolazilo. Sad sam isto dugo vremena gledao i stalno je bilo nedostupno, a bas jucer dok sam pisao odgovor sam vidio da opet salju.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on November 26, 2018, 02:15:59 pm
I ja sam primjetio da malo hoce, malo nece... Ali sad trenutno nema Gaoenga koji pase za whoopove na skladistu :(
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on December 10, 2018, 11:43:13 am
Evo, stigao mi BWhoop Pro, leti lijepo :) Čekam sad još AIO kameru da stigne za koji dan  :) Hvala ljudi na pomoći

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Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 10, 2018, 11:45:24 am
Super!

Stock firmware je odlican - samo sto nema acro :(  tako da ces svakako gore morati "spucati" silverware.

I zaboravio sam pitati, a ne sjecam se da smo spominjali - kakav punjac imas? Nije bas pametno koristiti USB punjac koji si dobio s B03 - mislim, mozes za bateriju koja je dosla uz B03 - ali za ostale "prave" baterije nikako (prvenstveno jer je elektronika u tim punjacima koji dolaze s tim quadovima prilicno nepouzdana, a neki od tih malih punjaca nemaju uopce kontrolu voltaze pa ako spojis neku bateriju koja nema el. sklop za prekid punjenja, moze doci do prepunjavanja, a onda i pozara)... Treba ti, ako vec nemas, dakle, i neki pristojni 1S punjac.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on December 11, 2018, 01:07:49 am
Imam iMax B6 punjač 1s-6s  ;)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 11, 2018, 09:18:29 am
Ako je original, a ne kineska kopija, OK je (imam i ja i koristio sam na pocetku :) ).

Ali prakticnije ti je za 1S nesto kao EV PEAK E6 - podrzava i HV i normalne baterije i 4 vrste prikljucaka i pojedinacna podesavanja... Ja ga koristim za 1S: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/e6-battery-charger-eu-plug.html (https://hobbyking.com/en_us/e6-battery-charger-eu-plug.html) <- ali vidim da je svuda prodan pa treba prokopati eBay, Alliexpress itd.

A ova dva imam za "na teren":
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-micro-6-lipoly-battery-charger.html (https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-micro-6-lipoly-battery-charger.html) <- moze na USB racunala ili powerbank - samo sto puni s min. 350mA pa treba paziti koje baterije idu (a treba i adapter ako se koristi baterija s PH2.0 https://hobbyking.com/en_us/battery-adapter-80mm-molex2-0-2p-to-molex1-25-2p.html (https://hobbyking.com/en_us/battery-adapter-80mm-molex2-0-2p-to-molex1-25-2p.html))
http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-p01-whoopower1s-lihv-lipo-charger-switchable-charging-board-max-1a-mcpx-mcx-molex-charge-6-battery-black-p129.html (http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-p01-whoopower1s-lihv-lipo-charger-switchable-charging-board-max-1a-mcpx-mcx-molex-charge-6-battery-black-p129.html) <- ovaj je isto super jer je malen, ali slabo koristim jer treba ispravljac ili LiPo napajanje... pa mi je malo neprakticno


Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on December 12, 2018, 12:59:52 pm
Punjač je original s hobikinga. Evo, stigla danas i kamera. Odlično je sjela :) Ja prezadovoljan
(https://i.postimg.cc/68djrR2b/5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/68djrR2b)  (https://i.postimg.cc/f3DHBLYz/6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f3DHBLYz)  (https://i.postimg.cc/JyxpgLQb/7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyxpgLQb)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 12, 2018, 03:02:31 pm
Dobro izgleda :)

Ali s original poklopcem, uz kameru, ce ti biti pretezak... cCiljaj da s baterijom tezina za 7mm whoop bude oko 33g - ne vise. Pa ako je teze, probaj radije neku spuzvu staviti gore (onu sivu za izolaciju cijevi - okrugla je i ja sam je znao koristiti prerezano popola - super je lagana - manje od pola grama, a posto je, kad se prereze, poluokrugla ima i ventilaciju za VTX jer nije priljubljena). Takodjer, ako ne budes koristio original poklopac, onda preporucujem i ucvrscivanje gumicom na drugaciji nacin jer bez tvrde potpore na stranicama okvira, gumica koja "poteze" lijevi i desni kraj zna iskriviti frame nakon nekog vremena (ja sam svoje sa slike od prije 1-2 stranice, upravo zbog toga promijenio i kamere drugacije vezao).



Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on December 12, 2018, 03:45:56 pm
Stiropor ti stvarno ne treba, dosta ti je malo izolirke s donje strane VTX-a da ne dode do kratkog spoja i to je to. Ja mislim da ti ne treba ni poklopac ni spuzva gore, nisu to dovoljne brzine da bi se ista ostetilo.


Nego, kad ce neka snimka?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 12, 2018, 03:54:03 pm
Ostetit ce se itekako - cim padne naopako na tvrdo, lako se moze desiti da ode VTX. Spuzva gore svakako, a stiropor definitivno ne treba. Ali treba duplu spuzvastu samoljepljivu traku ozmedju VTSxa i ploce! A ako nije dovoljno debela (bar 3mm - ima u kineskim ducanima takva za 5-6 Kn) komadic spuzve izmedju VTXa i ploce (dobra je i ona u kojoj dodje spakirana narudzba iz Kine :) )  - jer kad padne naopako, lako moze pritiskom VTXa razbiti elektroniku - jer cijela povrsina B03 ploce ima ispupcene elemente - od CPUa i ziroskopa do FETova. Mislim, ne zaboravimo sa se radi o plocici s igracke, a ne profi napravljenoj ploci za pravi quad (druga je stvar sto ce se flashanjem sa silverwareom pretvoriti u pravu acro mashinu  ;D - ali i dalje ostaje jednako krhko  ;) )
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on December 15, 2018, 10:45:59 am
Ja ću napraviti snimku sutra možda, ovih dana nisam stigao. Više sam letio po kući. Nego, jel mogu zamjeniti kameru nekom boljom(čip bi ostavio, samo bi napred kameru prelemio na one 3 žice drugu)? Ova trenutna je 700TVL. Da li je uopće moguće dobiti nešto tipa 720p na tiny whoopu? Vidim da ima i 1000TVL ali nije neka znatna razlika od 700TVL
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 15, 2018, 12:02:56 pm
Sto se zamjene kamere tice, nacelno mozes - samo treba paziti da je napon iz VTXa odgovarajuci. Ja sam to radio i mijesao VTX iz Boldclash F02 comboa s AKK i KongKong kamerama (jer ova sto dolazi s F02 je losa) i to radi bez problema - ali voltaza iz F02 VTXa odgovara za te kamere (provjerio sam prije).


Sto se 720p tice - koliko znam, to za sada ne postoji. FPV uvijek salje analogni signal relativno male rezolucije i jos uvijek nema HD FPVa. Ali imas mikro FPV kamere s on-board HD snimacem samo su dosta teske - moze to funkcionirati, ali trebas jace motore i dobre baterije. Ali to ce snimati u finoj kvaliteti, a i dalje ces FPV imati u 600, 700, 800 TVL... (neka me netko ispravi ako sam u krivu)


Sto se tice 1000TVL - mislim da se ne isplati - kazu po netu da nema neke razlike izmedju 800 i 1000... Ja osobno koristim 600, 700 i 800TVL i razlika se primjeti tek izmedju 600 i 800 i nije nas nesto drasticno bolja slika (vidi se malo vise detalja i tanje grane ako se ide oko drveca :) ). Ali bitnije je kako je fokusiran ovjektiv jer ako je fokus OK, i 600tVL daje super sliku (a dosta ti malih kamera dolazi s neprecizno izostrenim objektivom tj. s  malo mutnijom slikom)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on December 15, 2018, 12:12:45 pm
https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=561241423964&_u=bo11inj71e0 (https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=561241423964&_u=bo11inj71e0)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VaAlgvUO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VaAlgvUO0)

To ti je samo DVR, znaci uzivo i dalje imas analogni signal, a ovo ti se sprema na SD karticu.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on December 15, 2018, 12:40:37 pm
znači nešto slično F08AIO (http://www.boldclash.com/boldclash-f-08-dvr-5-44g-vtx-camera-fpv-aio-p34.html)što sam prije spominjao samo je problem potrošnje kamere. Za ovu sa taobao ne mogu naći koliko troši mA
edit: još primjera AKK (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AKK-BA5-5-8GHz-48CH-25mW-FPV-Transmitter-AIO-Micro-Camera-with-DVR-for-FPV-Quadcopter/32840730842.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.26aa3c0eT8iS3Y&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_319_317_10696_10084_453_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10821_10301_538_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=81eaf7eb-4cb7-4c70-a58a-f9f1dbe3a277-0&algo_pvid=81eaf7eb-4cb7-4c70-a58a-f9f1dbe3a277),  Cyclops (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Turbowing-DVR-CYCLOPS-3-DVR-VTX-CAM-AIO-700TVL-5-8G-48CH-0mW-25mW-200mW-FPV/32832848567.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.22.26aa3c0eT8iS3Y&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_319_317_10696_10084_453_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10821_10301_538_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=81eaf7eb-4cb7-4c70-a58a-f9f1dbe3a277-3&algo_pvid=81eaf7eb-4cb7-4c70-a58a-f9f1dbe3a277)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on December 15, 2018, 12:45:11 pm
Tako je, samo sta DVR od Boldclash izgleda puno losije, zato i saljem ovu. Plus za ovu mozes koristit vanjski VTX.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 15, 2018, 04:59:41 pm
Kao sto sam spomenuo, DVR kombinacija je preteska (ova kamera ima sama 4.5g - a kad se doda VTX, preci ce i 6g vjerojatno) i za tako nesto trebat ce jace motore i baterije od ovog sto je doslo s B03pro... a i onda ce vrijeme leta biti reducirano zbog tezine, a time i prevelike potrosnje struje. Mislim da nema smisla to stavljati na 7mm brushed whoop (iako se to radi - ima na youtubeu jos zgodnih clipova) - ali da - super je za ne-whoop buildove.


Inace, kad vec spominjem tezinu, sto se whoopa tice, optimalno je za 7mm build skupa s baterijom da ne prelazi 33-34g. Sve vise od toga je neefikasno ako ce se raditi ikakve ozbiljnije akrobacije (za laganu voznju mislim da moze i koji gram vise).


Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on December 15, 2018, 05:08:24 pm
Ja na Furibee F36, koji ima 6mm motore, imam TX03 od 6 grama i preteske baterije od 260 mAh (koje su toliko teske da imam jednako vrijeme kao i sa 150 mAh) i svejedno dobivam 2.5 minute do paljenja lampice i jos uvijek imam dovoljan punch za ostre zavoje (makar to nije niti blizu kao sto bi bilo da je lagan kako treba bit). Tih 3 grama od DVR-a ce se sigurno osjetit, ali nece whoop postat cigla.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 15, 2018, 05:39:08 pm

Cigla ili ne, ako proba neke brze promjene visine i "throttle puncheve" potrebne za flipove, rollove, loopove i sl. zbog vece tezine osjetit ce gubitke snage i "pojest" ce mu bateriju za cas...  Ali za 6g AIO, bolji motori od stock B03pro i dobra baterija ce pomoci, iako mislim da nema sve skupa neke svrhe jer zrtvujes performanse za super video (pa onda ni video nece biti super ako su performanse smanjene ;) )

F36 je level mod flyer pa tu nema takvih problema - mislim, sto god radio u level modu, jos uvijek nije "gladno" snage kao acro...
Ja imam dva F36 - super su (imaju odlicne motore), ali nikad ih nisam toliko opteretio i koristio sam samo original 150mAh bateriju. Ne vozam ih vise od kad letim samo acro (a ne mogu se flashati :( ). Morat cu ih predati klincima od rodjaka koji su se bas zainteresirali za FPV... :)
Kolika ti je ukupna tezina F36 s TX03 i bez baterije?

UPDATE: sad sam pogledao moj TX03 (imam vec dugo, ali uopce ne koristim - dobro da si me podsjetio...) - moja ima antenu s 4 leafa i  teska je 4.74g, a ne 6! Da ti vaga nije u problemu? Ili moja ne valja?  :-X
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: jakov1 on December 15, 2018, 06:31:07 pm
Nemam vagu nazalost, na Banggoodu pise da je 6 grama. Makar sad gledam, kolega mlilasic s foruma je radio review i izvagao 5 tako da vjerojatno nije 6 grama kako pise.


Da, u pravu si za acro, ali acro s DVR-om ne mogu izvuc ni ovi novi 2s whoopovi tako to nisam ni racunao kao opciju.


Jel imas video nekog loopa s B03, sta je to uopce moguce?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 15, 2018, 08:19:10 pm
4.74g (ja izvagao :) ).


Sto se tice acro videa  za B03pro - nema bas na youtubeu, ali ima za E011 plocu s nesto brzim motorima - u principu, isto je - E011 i B03pro ploca prakticno su klonovi. JBeeFPV je majstor tog whoopa (E011, a ne B03pro - ali, kazem, prakticno ista stvar sto se CPUa i ziroskopa tice - E011 cini mi se vise se ni ne moze flashati tj. Eachine je izgleda stvarno promijenio plocu - vidim online da kazu da ne ide vise ... :( ):


Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3D_ycI20MU#)

Sad, naravno, za neke od egzibicija kakve on izvodi, trebaju ipak jaci motori i dobra baterija (i bolesno dobra vjestina da se na whoopu izbjegne yaw washout kod takvih manevara), ali sa stock B03Pro motorima i baterijom (pod uvjetom da je sto laksi - s baterijom 32-33g max.), bez problema idu flipovi i rollovi, a i diving je moguc - iako za izvuci se iz njega bez washouta treba dosta vjestine... :)


UPDATE - a kad uzmes tu istu B03pro plocu i te iste stock B03pro motore i stavis to na boss 7mm frame i flashas sa Silverwareom, to je urnebesna  acro masina! Imam nekoliko takvih... Nije to vise whoop i nije za unutra vec za van, ali to onda leti nevjerojatno! Ali to je vec druga tema...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on December 20, 2018, 10:02:12 pm
Preporuka zamjenskih motorića? Ima koji bolji od stock njegovih? Čini mi se da mi je prvi desni motor otišao, samo se vrti oko njega i ne može poletjeti. Nije ni 6 letova izdržao.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on December 20, 2018, 10:12:01 pm
Skini propeler i vidi da nema dlaka, prasine itd. ispod. Takodjer, provjeri da ne zaglavljuje o "ductse" (tu kruznu plastiku oko propelera). Vidi i da nije ispao konektor  motora iz prikljucka na ploci, ili da se mozda nije "odvalio" sam prikljucak na ploci pa da ne narucujes motore ako je to otislo. Ako je sve OK, probaj skinuti isti motor koji radi (sa suprotne strane) i spojiti na to mjesto samo da vidis vrti li i da li je sve OK (da nije pregorio FET za taj motor). Mozes probati i problematicni motor spojiti direktno na bateriju na 3-4 sekunde (ne duze da ne pregori, ako radi) i vidjeti da li se vrti (to je najjednostavnije da provjeris da li je motor stvarno crkao).


Nisu stock motori losi - ali zna se desiti da crknu ako bas jako udaris ili upadne nesto u rupice... Ja koristim Boldclash 19000kv (iako nisu 19000kv vec negdje oko 16-17000kv i isto nisu bogznasto) i BetaFPV 17500kv - a betafpv su bolji, ali nema ih vise na betafpv siteu (sad prodaju samo 19000kv - ti su super, ali baterija koju imas nece to izdrzati i vrijeme leta ce drasticno pasti)... eBay mozda za betafpv 17500kv...


Inace, najbolji su Chaoli 7x16 17000kv na micromotorwarehouse siteu - ali papreno skupi... Mozes probati i neke jeftinije kao Racestar ili k'otoboze-"Chaoli" 7x16 s banggooda, ali nije neka kvaliteta u usporedbi s istima s MMW (bangood ima ili Chaoli laznjake ili neke koji nisu prosli kontrolu kvalitete - pa je i cijena niska)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on January 08, 2019, 07:41:42 pm
Da, do motora je bilo. Svi motori su se vrtjeli jednako lagano okratajući ih prstom. Ali očito je prvi desni na neki način "oslabio", iako na oko se vrtio jenako kao ostali. Privremeno sam zamjenio motor s prijateljevim i whoop opet normalo leti. Gledao sam, nema na njemu ni kose ni ništa namotano.
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on January 09, 2019, 10:41:01 am
Ako je vruc na dodir nakon samo par sekundi vrtnje, onda je u problemu - ali ocito si uspjesno i sam dijagnosticirao... Mozda je nesto upalo unutra. Dosta mi je cudno da je tako brzo "skuren" (osim ako nisi davao gas dok je taj motor bio blokiran npr. propeler zaglavljen uz nesto ili uz ductse - to ih zna prilicno brzo unistiti). Uzmi betafpv 17500 ako nadjes na ebayu. Cijena je OK, a bolji jesu (iako ni oni nece trajati previse ako se vrtnja blokira, puno "udara" i sl. - tu nista ne pomaze.. ali bar nemaju rupice pa nece nista upasti unutra :) )
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on February 05, 2019, 04:51:56 pm
Eto jedan video sklepan na mobitelu. Let nije smooth i pro, al tratraž ste neku snimku. Kad bude ljepšeg vremena bude još snimki. Mogu reći da se whoop super ponaša van kuće. Jedino je možda video signal slab, čim zađem iza zida ili nečeg već se gubi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqmABWTYiI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqmABWTYiI)
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on February 06, 2019, 10:13:59 am
Idealan je za van - posebno ako stavis prave 19000kv motore i flashas ga na Silverware i koristis acro...
Ja svoje i vozam iskljucivo tako i po vani (iako je sad, od kad je na snazi novi zakon, prakticno ilegalno vozati cak i whoop oko kuce, po parku, igralistu... >:(   )


BTW, dobar video! Sto se tice signala, ako je vlaga u zraku i debeli zidovi i receiver i/ili antena na naocalama nisu bas neki, to je razumljiv problem s 25mW odasiljacem...
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: matija0311 on March 01, 2019, 06:53:02 am
Da se ukljucim u raspravu jucer sam sa clanom Osa letio na testnim dronovima(uzel za ucenje i igru(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190301/741bdbd8e6789d85e70637a3446f5e40.jpg))
Posto sam dosad letio sa tellom i sparkom i sl. S ovim se puno vise “mucim” al je tolko vise i zabavno :)
fpv radi odlicno budem za vikend poslikal i probal neki video sloziti


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Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on March 01, 2019, 08:55:49 am
Ha! To je jos jedan klon Eachine E013!  :)

Zapravo, pitanje je tko je cega klon...  ;)

Nisam fan E013 jer se ne moze flashati s nicim vec se mora koristiti stock fw i ne moze se nista podesavati, nema acro mod, a  i 6mm motori su gore... Ali OK je za manje zahtjevne i one koji ne lete acro.
Ovaj je isti?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Osa on March 05, 2019, 01:20:16 am
Što je bolje koristiti danas na tim malim kamerama (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Turbowing-DVR-CYCLOPS-3-DVR-VTX-CAM-AIO-700TVL-5-8G-48CH-0mW-25mW/32965054681.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.10.78e61c57761c2z&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_10_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_453_10084_454_10083_10103_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10902,searchweb201603_60,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=5271c58e-32b1-4ec2-b9d5-3de83cc4a73a-1&algo_pvid=5271c58e-32b1-4ec2-b9d5-3de83cc4a73a) PAL ili NTSC? PAL je bio za nas tjekom analogne televizije. A danas dok je digitalno, što je bolje (npr za Youtube upload)?
Title: Odg: Tiny whoop (Blade inductrix upgraded)
Post by: Argento on March 05, 2019, 09:38:21 am
Mislim da je, sto se youtubea tice, totalno svejedno... Video ti je ionako analogni i niske rezolucije (a danasnji digitalni SD TV koji emitira HTV i ostali na MPEG2 kanalima je isto PAL i sto se rezolucije i sto se FPSa tice) - a youtube ce ga ionako dodatno srozati.


Ali trenutno ti je ilegalno objavljivati video iz zraka bez hrpe papira... ;)