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Title: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on May 02, 2015, 02:59:14 pm
Na praznik rada,dvoje slovenaca na Splitskoj rivi pilotiraju dji inspire 1.
Riva puna šetača,oni se vozikaju na 1-2m od poda i snimaju.
Lete oko ljudi,iznad glava.
Ovo je još jedan dokaz da Plug & play "modelari" ne mare za sigurnost niti za moguće poslijedice upravljanja bespilotnin letjelicama..
Svi znamo kakve se nesreće znaju desit kad te propeler pomiluje.
Na svu sreću ljudi oko njega su zaintrigirani i radoznali,ali kad bi bili svjesni činjenice da in ditetu propeler može iskopat oko,vjerovatno i nebi bili toliko radoznali
Zbog takvih je i ovaj prijedlog zakona u razradi.
Sa samin time što su strani državljani,to još više komplicira situaciju oko obeštećenja,jer san bia svjedok jednon kad  mi je pijani stranac razbia nogon retrovizor od auta i kad je došla policija rekla mi je da mu mogu stavit "soli na rep" i da mi je jedina solucija da se dogovorin sa njin privatno da mi plati štetu,drugin ričima,glumia san kamatara.



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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: experthr on May 02, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
Ništa čudno,ima se para,kupi i ko je** pravila i sigurnost drugih,ali na kraju nece ispastat ti koji ne postuju pravila nego oni koji se posteno bave ovim hobbbyem -.-
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: SparroW12 on May 02, 2015, 05:07:35 pm
Turistička sezona je počela, ove godine će biti više nego ikad stranaca sa "dronovima" na našoj obali i snimati ljepote hrvatske, tako da su šanse da netko nastrada jako visoke.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: šišmiš on May 03, 2015, 07:59:02 am

Eto rješenja:http://www.qrz.ru/schemes/contribute/security/jammers/drone-jammer.pdf


ako omane, ovaj će sigurno radit:
http://www.hypercable.fr/images/stories/mobirake/jammers%20e-Rake.pdf (http://www.hypercable.fr/images/stories/mobirake/jammers%20e-Rake.pdf)



 :D :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zed on May 03, 2015, 02:30:56 pm
tako je tako je treba ometat ekipu, to je igra :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: denis13 on May 03, 2015, 02:53:45 pm
baci mrižu na drona i bježi s njim, najisplativija igra   :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Plavi on May 03, 2015, 04:02:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg9wOwuoTQo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg9wOwuoTQo)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on May 03, 2015, 09:03:04 pm
Hahahaha,ništa onda slijedeći put idemo u akciju,prodajen na forumu u pola cijene  :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: gogy on May 03, 2015, 09:07:13 pm
Moraš imat dobru pentu i pod uslovom da nema regu. samo gas i nema šanse da te stignu, znači morskim putem!!! :D :D :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on May 03, 2015, 09:08:53 pm
hahaha  :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: dstormyd on May 17, 2015, 08:37:46 pm
http://www.jutarnji.hr/suzavac-zaljepio-na-dron-pa-navigirao-prema-stadionu-slucajno-ga-zabio-u-drvo-kraj-maksimira-i-aktivirao/1350498/ (http://www.jutarnji.hr/suzavac-zaljepio-na-dron-pa-navigirao-prema-stadionu-slucajno-ga-zabio-u-drvo-kraj-maksimira-i-aktivirao/1350498/)

fino će nam zapapriti zbog ovakvih likova
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: SparroW12 on May 17, 2015, 08:45:05 pm
Haha kakve budale, bas me zanima sto bi napravio da je usao izmedu tribina ne znam kako bi ga upravljao bez gledanja. Inace dobra ideja ali lose isplanirana
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on May 17, 2015, 11:35:00 pm
Ideja je debilna, ako se neko zesce sranje dogodi svima ce nam plavci na vrata s nalozima i morat ces imati dobar alibi, uglavnom sranja su pocela.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: SparroW12 on May 17, 2015, 11:51:19 pm
To je kada kupis "dron" pa ga lansiras iz kutije sa konzervom bojnog otrova bez prethodnog znanja o letenju onda naravno da se zabije na vrh drveta. Treba nesto pothitno napraviti u vezi tih budala.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on May 18, 2015, 12:24:05 am
Problem je sto se svasta moze zakvaciti na letjelicu, ovo su samo poceci.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: sasapu on May 18, 2015, 07:17:40 am
Dok mi sami ne pocnemo sredjivati takve kretene nece se smiriti
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zed on May 18, 2015, 08:25:24 am
Nazalost niti to nece pomoci...ljudskoj gluposti nema kraja a ni nas modelara nema dovoljno da glumimo zracnu kontrolu :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: gogy on May 18, 2015, 12:22:21 pm
Nemoguće bu to kontrolirati jel tehnologija ide uvijem naprijed i bit će ispred zakona. Žalosno ali istinito.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: KresoZG on May 18, 2015, 01:55:26 pm
Mislim da bi trebalo uvesti ograničenje na RTF opcije. Samo firme koje imaju registriranu tu djelatnost bi mogle kupit gotove modele.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: storm9a on May 18, 2015, 03:22:28 pm
bome nes ti rjesenja....
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: KresoZG on May 18, 2015, 03:26:13 pm
Mislio sam na DJI i sl. ne i na početničke stiroporce!
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: storm9a on May 18, 2015, 03:27:23 pm
i dalje. za novce koliko platis RTF DJI-a nekog mozes sloziti sasvim solidan multi i iz komponenti.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on May 18, 2015, 03:46:15 pm
i dalje. za novce koliko platis RTF DJI-a nekog mozes sloziti sasvim solidan multi i iz komponenti.
Istina,ali za razliku od rtf,bar si obogaćen znanjen kako sve stvari funkcioniraju..I svjesniji mogućih posljedica :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: KresoZG on May 18, 2015, 03:54:10 pm
Pa to i je bila namjera.
Ako hoće radit sran.... neka ga slaže.......... ili kupi od nekog modelara ;D ;D

Znam da nije fer ovo reći ali modelar je onaj tko sam slaže ili napravi model. Ne mora biti iz nule (piljenje, šmirglanje, ljepljenje,kalupi) ali bar da ga pošarafi iz 20 komponenti (koje je sam kupio uz pomoć iskusnijih) i isprogramira.  Nije nužna radiona za složit model.
Svjestan sam da 100% rješenja nema.

Tako mogu i ja biti vrhunski ribić koji zapravo ribu kupuje u ribarnici, a vode ni vidio.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Diogen on May 18, 2015, 05:14:20 pm
Tako mogu i ja biti vrhunski ribić koji zapravo ribu kupuje u ribarnici, a vode ni vidio.
..upravo tako... :D

Ja u biti nemam ništa protiv momaka koji praše FPV, multije ..'dronove', naravno ako mi ne lete iznad glave.
Većina ljudi sa Frika odgovorni su i rade sa multijima kako i treba!

No tipični "uspaljeni noob" ima oko 25 godina, plus-minus i spreman je platiti xxxx kuna za 'dron'.
Teoretsko znanje, praksa-iskustvo = 0 bodova.

Desilo mi se prije jedno godinu dana, dođem na livadu i vidim trojicu kako praše jednog kvadića.
Izvućem moje igračke, imao sam jednu Kiflu koja se dere jače od Zagija i jednog jadralca za plahutanje po termici.  Uočim momke i mahnem im, ipak smo kao, kolege ! Oni ne trzaju !?!?

I tako ja malo urlam sa Kiflom, malo čačkam po zračnim strujama sa jadralcem, tipovi me ne primijećuju, ni mene niti modele.
Kranu nazad, prodju pored mene potpuno nezainteresirano, svi bulje u svoj kvadić, zaigrani kao djeca, razgovaraju međusobno.

Naravno, ništa ih ne obavezuje da me pozdrave ili mi se pridruže, ali hm... sve je to obrazac ponašanja djeteta koje se zaigralo pa ne vidi da mora na većeru i spavanje.

Eto takve infantilne noobčine će nas stjerati u ilegalu i/ili nam nabaciti dodatne troškove u vidu raznih dozvola, osiguranja... ili nam nabaciti dežurne cinkaroše na livadi koji će odmah zvati murju 'da neko leti bespilotne'..pa se ti onda pravdaj sa si sportski/hobby letač a ne 'pilot drona'.

Damir
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: frankycro on May 31, 2015, 09:15:57 am
Troškovi skidanja inspire-a bili 10 puta veči od njegove cijene:  :o
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/elaborate-high-wire-act-recovers-drone-stuck-on-115000-volt-line/ (http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/elaborate-high-wire-act-recovers-drone-stuck-on-115000-volt-line/)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: HF on May 31, 2015, 12:37:40 pm
Jadni vatrogasci, nekad su im samo nestašne mačke davale dodatnog posla, a sada i dronovi:
http://www.057info.hr/vijesti/2015-05-31/vatrogasci-skidali-dron-sa-zvonika-sv-frane (http://www.057info.hr/vijesti/2015-05-31/vatrogasci-skidali-dron-sa-zvonika-sv-frane)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on May 31, 2015, 02:03:22 pm
Ja vas slušam ljudi (ok, čitam) što vi pričate. Pa stvar je tako jednostavna; i DJI, kao i sve ostalo radi na 2.4 GHz. I još nešto radi na toj frekvenciji - mikrovalna. Izvadiš magnetron i trafo i dio elektronike. RF mrak do kraja horizonta, pa nek netko onda leti na divlje ako može. Kad 'naši dečki' lete, onda to lijepo ugasiš. Kraj priče.  8)

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on June 01, 2015, 12:59:44 pm
Jučeršnja bikijada u Radošiću je imala jednog snimatelja iz ptičje perspektive







(http://s28.postimg.org/to0c4tuzh/2015_05_31_1568.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gjurs52xl/full/)
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomislavSB on June 01, 2015, 01:51:16 pm
Evo ga još jedan slavani u kombinaciji s neodgovornim
http://www.jutarnji.hr/video--enrique-posjekao-prste-na-koncertu-iako-je-krvario-to-ga-nije-zaustavilo--krvlju-nacrtao-srce-i-otpjevao-do-kraja-/1358774/ (http://www.jutarnji.hr/video--enrique-posjekao-prste-na-koncertu-iako-je-krvario-to-ga-nije-zaustavilo--krvlju-nacrtao-srce-i-otpjevao-do-kraja-/1358774/)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: mini_fly_moriss on June 01, 2015, 03:58:43 pm
I na redbull air race je policija tragala za tv ekipom koja je imala dron,.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: DeCay on June 01, 2015, 05:51:27 pm
Nisam ni sumnjao da će se nać takav mudrac bez mozga. Dobro da nije išao medju pilone letit da dočeka aviončiće...
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: the beast on June 02, 2015, 01:12:23 am
Haha mini fly moris taj sa dronom ( nadam se da je to bio taj ) je bio u apartmanu preko puta mene i ja sam mu se priblizio da vidim kako " on" to upravlja i velim mu da imam takvi slicni ali manji i doma radjeni i on mi ljepo i pristojno veli " odj**i klinjo" najradje sam mu hti stisnuti jednu ali ajde pusti budale
i kasnije u subotu navecer oko cca 22h cujem ja opet ga lik zuji i zuji i ja ajde skinem onaj fpv wiewer za fantom i reko da vidim sta on to snima i ja se spojim na njega i imam sliku i samo se vidi kako fantomic pada i to drito u bazen i lik me spazi i ja sam mu samo mahnuo haha nadam se da je proradio poslije
sad neznam dal sam mu ja sto sredio ili je sam pao od neodgovornog vlasnika ali poslje je bila uzivancijabez zujanja tocno nad mojom terasom  haha :D
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Post by: Remote on June 02, 2015, 10:10:05 am
@The Beast , uvijek je lijepo kad NEGATIVAC plati.... :D ;D ....Bila je to osveta malog kineza... ;) ...LP
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Post by: the beast on June 02, 2015, 10:11:30 am
Remote ipak kinezi i na nas misle haha ne misle samo na profit
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on June 03, 2015, 06:51:31 pm
Taman, u međuvremenu... evo još jedan neodgovorni modelar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRlbZt6n8g

 :P

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Remote on June 03, 2015, 07:00:00 pm
Ovaj put ''Znatiželja nije ubila mačku''.... ;D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on June 03, 2015, 09:01:11 pm
Ovaj put ''Znatiželja nije ubila mačku''.... ;D

Da. A eto, to sam danas (napokon) dobio poštom iz Banggood-a (bila je to preporuka Dr.Toma da kupim umjesto onog glupog koaksialnog helija). Žurio sam, pa nisam stigao više toga snimiti. Ova mačka (Milica) je posebna - obično se mačke jako boje 'zujećih' stvari (usisavač i slično), no ova... eh... Pravi vragolan.

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: PeroPirana on June 07, 2015, 01:14:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wuW1SU656s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wuW1SU656s)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Remote on June 07, 2015, 01:26:39 pm
Hvala Pero ,ovo je genijalno... :D :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on June 07, 2015, 01:34:30 pm
hahahaha  :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on June 07, 2015, 03:36:43 pm
HAHAHAHA. "uspon robota", ....  :D :D :D :D

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: I14R10 on June 08, 2015, 12:27:06 pm
Jedino rješenje je da se uvede ispit i obuka, kao za radio amatere. Bez toga nema letenja.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: sasapu on June 11, 2015, 12:27:06 pm
 covjek lijepo stavio fotku
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Tommee on June 11, 2015, 12:56:31 pm
Je, 11. travnja 2014.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: sasapu on June 11, 2015, 02:16:50 pm
A 11 travnja 2014 to nije bilo glupo
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bagsbani on June 11, 2015, 07:39:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjYBPElkXN8?t=2m48s
iako ima više "neodgovornih" dijelova, preporučam premotat na 2'48''
možda je isti frajer
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on June 11, 2015, 07:44:49 pm
Lijepo :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Strah on June 11, 2015, 11:07:37 pm
Super spotić :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zlatcom on June 24, 2015, 11:28:19 pm
Ovo je za ne vjerovat, koliki debil moras biti i letjeti multi rotorom prema putnickom zrakoplovu. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7gN0bFkAAE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7gN0bFkAAE)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on June 24, 2015, 11:38:24 pm
U, bokte... pa da je samo malo bliže centroplanu, ne bi bilo ove snimke, nego napis u crnoj kronici.

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: modernwarfare on June 24, 2015, 11:54:42 pm
Dobar fejk .
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on June 25, 2015, 02:01:08 am
Dobar fejk .

Uh, nisam ni gledao komentare na YT... a vidljivo je da na vrhovima krila ima njegova stranica (braint.com ili tako nekako). eh...

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Remote on June 25, 2015, 12:45:29 pm
Mr. BRUCE BRANIT ...majstor za efekte :

http://www.branit.com/ (http://www.branit.com/)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zlatcom on June 25, 2015, 01:06:01 pm
Hehe da ni ja nisam gledao komentare, nasjeo sam odmah na prvu. Dobar je, stvarno dobar s tim efektima.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on June 27, 2015, 09:26:52 pm
http://video-univ.blogspot.com/2015/06/rc-plane-crashes-real-plane.html?m=1
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: wirevt on June 29, 2015, 06:28:35 pm
http://video-univ.blogspot.com/2015/06/rc-plane-crashes-real-plane.html?m=1 (http://video-univ.blogspot.com/2015/06/rc-plane-crashes-real-plane.html?m=1)


Tipa koji je ostao bez modela su odmah počeli kritizirati što nije imao spotera., a toliko ljudi pokraj njega... Gadno su zabrljali ovo,, sva sreća pa nitko osim modela nije stradao.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on June 29, 2015, 06:59:39 pm
Sva sreća :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on July 16, 2015, 01:35:36 pm
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxbkWLLTMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxbkWLLTMI)




Kako se bogati zabavljaju :)



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Post by: bulldog on July 16, 2015, 01:43:11 pm
:)
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Post by: Pero1969 on July 16, 2015, 03:14:48 pm
lijepo se oni zabavljaju,nema kaj, samo se izgleda nitko od njih
ne brine gdje sve padaju ova zrna koja oni tak lijepo rafalno šibaju
u zrak !!!  :o


Ajd još ovo kaj pukne iz sačmarice, to još kak tak, nejde baš predaleko,
ali ovo iz užljebljenih cijevi ....


Jest da izgleda imaju love, ali nisu baš prebistri !
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Post by: laki on July 16, 2015, 04:22:22 pm
ovi su strijelci ko i Mišo Kovač  :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: davor on July 21, 2015, 06:39:12 pm
Evo primjer neodgovornih modelara kod Varšave:

http://www.jutarnji.hr/panika-nad-varsavom-lufthansin-avion-pri-slijetanju-jedva-izbjegao-fatalni-sudar-s-dronom/1386207/ (http://www.jutarnji.hr/panika-nad-varsavom-lufthansin-avion-pri-slijetanju-jedva-izbjegao-fatalni-sudar-s-dronom/1386207/)

Takvi incidenti će nas sve koštati prava na letenje bilo kakvom vrstom modela ...
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: davor on July 21, 2015, 06:41:23 pm
BTW u zadnje vrijeme CCAA često šalje inspekcije na najavljena zrakoplovna događanja.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Remote on July 22, 2015, 06:56:31 pm
A svaka se država,na svoj način, ''bori'' s neodgovornim modelarima i onima koji se tako predstavljaju :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6uU1LTdI8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6uU1LTdI8M)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on July 24, 2015, 11:05:28 am
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Clinton-Austin-Haughwout-Drone-Assault-Officer-Police-Arrest-Suspicious-318329461.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CTBrand
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Post by: Remote on July 24, 2015, 11:16:14 am
Bilo bi mu bolje da se bavi seksom , pa da eliminira ove ćiriće sa čela... :-[
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on July 24, 2015, 12:06:39 pm
E tako je :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on July 28, 2015, 10:47:54 am
http://news.yahoo.com/video/reward-proposed-pilots-flew-drones-162253094.html
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Pero1969 on July 30, 2015, 06:52:44 pm
Evo postavit ću to tu na temi, ne zamjerite mi, jer mislim da svi normalni modelari imaju najmanje veze sa ovim tekstom.
Najveći problem i jesu ti ''vlasnici bespilotnih letjelica'' kojih u zadnje vrijeme ima sve više i više, a
ti ''vlasnici'' nemaju previše veze sa modelarskim mozgom i načinom razmišljanja. Dronovi se kupuju
šakom i kapom i leti se sve u 16 naokolo, al opet će oni pravi modelari kao što smo i već prije
ustanovili naj...ti !!
Al dobro fala Bogu, nisu u naslovu napisali ''Apel neodgovornim modelarima ''  ???

No da ne duljim, evo linka, pod rubrikom HRZ i PZO:

http://www.osrh.hr/#rubData/HTML/HR/O NAMA/HRZ/20150730_Apel_vlasnicima_bespilotih_letjelica_za_poštivanje_zračnog_prostora/Apel_vlasnicima_bespilotih_letjelica_za_poštivanje_zračnog_prostora_HR.htm
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: mini_fly_moriss on July 30, 2015, 09:07:14 pm
O da ima ljudi koji ne razmišljaju na taj način (ugrožavanje drugih letjelica) na žalost svih nas, pozitivno je što se sada zakonski regulira takvi ispadi pojedincaca ako se uhvate. Evo jedan primjer ove godine (slike u prilogu), požara nigdje na vidiku, sunčan dan, povrh primoštena na brdu di nema u krugu nigdje nikog samo stup i antene, sa menom se vozi moj x8 i mislim si da ga dignem malo i posnimim panoramu.. na brdu sam ne moram ići previsoko reko taman to u par minuta, kad od jednom u daljini čujem laganu buku iz zraka meni sa sjeverozapadne strane gledam u zrak niš ne vidim kad od jednom unutar 1minute se stvorio on bigbird u niskom preletu ne više od 40m ravno preko moje glave, onak izbezumljen gledam i ne vjerujem koj k... da sam bio u zraku što kako, on je proletio dosta brzo vrlo vjeroatno iznad 130km/h ako ne i brže.. dali bi on mene vidio, dali bi ja pravovremeno znao reagirati što napravit, ideja o panorami je pala u drugi plan i letjelica je ostala u autu. Znači kako sada unatoč zakonu o A i B zoni predviditi ovako nešta? Znači ovo u najgorem slučaju di sam ja mislio letiti je B zona, e sad zakon je kod nas AGL 300m zona G heli je letio u zoni G, znači mora letiti na vizalno jer kontrola leta ne nadzire taj prostor. Vaša mišljenja?
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bulldog on July 30, 2015, 09:08:49 pm
http://www.wsmv.com/story/29660127/man-charged-with-shooting-down-drone
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: odense on July 31, 2015, 05:57:41 pm
Do not fly near people, AHA, litlle tomorrow. neki neznaju sta znaci blizu
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Canonian on July 31, 2015, 08:51:14 pm

O da ima ljudi koji ne razmišljaju na taj način (ugrožavanje drugih letjelica) na žalost svih nas, pozitivno je što se sada zakonski regulira takvi ispadi pojedincaca ako se uhvate. Evo jedan primjer ove godine (slike u prilogu), požara nigdje na vidiku, sunčan dan, povrh primoštena na brdu di nema u krugu nigdje nikog samo stup i antene, sa menom se vozi moj x8 i mislim si da ga dignem malo i posnimim panoramu.. na brdu sam ne moram ići previsoko reko taman to u par minuta, kad od jednom u daljini čujem laganu buku iz zraka meni sa sjeverozapadne strane gledam u zrak niš ne vidim kad od jednom unutar 1minute se stvorio on bigbird u niskom preletu ne više od 40m ravno preko moje glave, onak izbezumljen gledam i ne vjerujem koj k... da sam bio u zraku što kako, on je proletio dosta brzo vrlo vjeroatno iznad 130km/h ako ne i brže.. dali bi on mene vidio, dali bi ja pravovremeno znao reagirati što napravit, ideja o panorami je pala u drugi plan i letjelica je ostala u autu. Znači kako sada unatoč zakonu o A i B zoni predviditi ovako nešta? Znači ovo u najgorem slučaju di sam ja mislio letiti je B zona, e sad zakon je kod nas AGL 300m zona G heli je letio u zoni G, znači mora letiti na vizalno jer kontrola leta ne nadzire taj prostor. Vaša mišljenja?
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Dobro si pitanje postavio, ovo i mene zanima. Slična situacija i ja imao na gumenjaku kod Sv.Filip i Jakov kada je bigbird proletio na oko 50m u pravcu Šibenika, djeca su mi skočila od straha u more jer se ovaj opasno spustio u preletu. Ponio sam i ja svoj quad u gepeku, ali nakon ovoga ne mislim vaditi jer vidim da tu nema pravila i necu riskirati za par panorama.


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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: KresoZG on August 02, 2015, 11:26:57 am
Opet neki onanator u akciji
http://www.24sata.hr/news/oruzane-snage-rh-dronovi-ce-nam-srusiti-kanadere-micite-ih-430926 (http://www.24sata.hr/news/oruzane-snage-rh-dronovi-ce-nam-srusiti-kanadere-micite-ih-430926)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: kbelcar on August 02, 2015, 04:06:48 pm
...ne razumijem sto je tu sporno G-sloj je zona slobodnog letenja "ali" gdje vladaju neka pravila ponasanja.
Svatko tko leti u zoni do 1000ft AGL-a, svjestan je da da tu slobodno lete ostale letjelice - pa samim time mora biti na oprezu, istina  puno veca je vjerojatnost da se dogodi 'slucajni' susret sa drugom letjelicom, buduci da nema obveza za planovima leta i obveza za transponderom, a nije ni rijetko da svaka druga letjelica komunicira na drugoj frekvenciji.
U toj zoni vecinom lete lake i ultralake letjelice (kao sto letim i ja 90% vremena), a lete naravno i modeli!
Sve to ne iskljucuje mogucnost preleta vecim letjelicama sluzbenim, vojnim, pa cak i komercijalnim - istima  piloti moraju vise paznje obratit na promet u zraku, a'l i biti svjesni da riskiraju puno vise sto se sigurnosti samog leta tice nego na vecim visinama!!!
Mala je vjerojatnost od sudara... ali ona postoji - vjerujem nista veca od sudara sa vecom pticom!!!
Ipak vjerujem da ce svatko normalan rade riskirat model nego ljudski zivot...

Lp
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bagsbani on September 04, 2015, 02:23:54 pm
evo još jednog:

http://www.jutarnji.hr/video--strah-od-teroristickog-napada-na-us-openu-zbog-pada-drona-na-stadionu-nastala-panika---pomislila-sam-da-je-to-bomba--/1410167/ (http://www.jutarnji.hr/video--strah-od-teroristickog-napada-na-us-openu-zbog-pada-drona-na-stadionu-nastala-panika---pomislila-sam-da-je-to-bomba--/1410167/)

treba bit lumen za ovo izvest
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: wirevt on September 05, 2015, 12:30:45 am
Izgleda kao 3DR Solo,, vjerujem da policiji neće trebati dugo da nađe ovog tikvana.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on April 17, 2016, 11:33:41 pm
Poceli se sudarati
http://in.reuters.com/article/britain-drone-idINL5N17K0W7 (http://in.reuters.com/article/britain-drone-idINL5N17K0W7)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on April 18, 2016, 09:56:53 pm
Neće mi nikad bit jasni ti "profesionalni" fotografi i letači šta se muvaju oko zračnih luka..ja bi to sve pozatvara
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zed on April 19, 2016, 12:24:18 am
Zanimljivo da je svaki susret bio u Londonu :D 
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on April 19, 2016, 10:25:07 am
Istina, samo zadnji puta kada sam presjedao u Londonu, avion je kruzio u krugu oko 50-55 km od aerodroma i to dosta nisko, tamo bi no RC fly zone trebala biti oko 100 km.
Zamisli da ti u Zagrebu kazu nema letenja 70-100 km od aerodroma. Moglo bi se letjeti tek kod Karlovca.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: KresoZG on April 19, 2016, 12:15:39 pm
Istina, samo zadnji puta kada sam presjedao u Londonu, avion je kruzio u krugu oko 50-55 km od aerodroma i to dosta nisko, tamo bi no RC fly zone trebala biti oko 100 km.
Zamisli da ti u Zagrebu kazu nema letenja 70-100 km od aerodroma. Moglo bi se letjeti tek kod Karlovca.

Ako ćemo tako onda je i Karlovac "no fly zone" pošto se često zna dogodit ako je gužva na Plesu da je prilazni luk čak i preko Mostanja na relativno maloj visini. Naravno više od 300m.

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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
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Zed , ma nije samo u Londonu i GB ,nego tamo novinari čekaju kao lešinari na  sve što će se dogoditi ili prijaviti.......neće valjda dežurat na Šermentjevu (jedan od moskovskih aerodroma... :D ) pa da ih posjeti Putin i društvo.... ;D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zed on April 19, 2016, 04:58:54 pm
Da ali ponovom je svaki NLO automatski dron...dakle nemaju pojma sto se dogodi i to je naravno dron :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: toni on April 24, 2016, 09:20:59 am
Bio je plastični, al ipak ne dron...Zed pogodak "u sridu"...:)

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/04/drone-that-hit-british-airways-jet-was-likely-a-plastic-bag/ (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/04/drone-that-hit-british-airways-jet-was-likely-a-plastic-bag/)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zed on April 24, 2016, 09:26:40 am
Hahahaha, trosi nista a autonomija brutala :D :D :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: toni on April 24, 2016, 09:28:31 am
A tek vijek trajanja...:)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on April 24, 2016, 01:20:41 pm
500god minimalno  :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on April 24, 2016, 03:42:46 pm
I've not actually landed a 747 at Heathrow, but I've landed the simulator and the pilot has a lot of other things to concentrate on
mogli bi se koncentrirati i na gledanje kroz prozor :)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: vedronebo on April 24, 2016, 11:08:43 pm
A, evo... našao sam vrlo korisnu tablicu silueta za prepoznavanje dronova:

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LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Strah on April 25, 2016, 08:21:12 am
 :D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Ante ST on June 01, 2016, 09:15:47 am
http://slobodnadalmacija.hr/novosti/svijet/clanak/id/314115/pakleni-plan-isil-ovih-terorista-za-euro-dronovi-s-kemijskim-oruzjem-ubijat-ce-engleske-navijace (http://slobodnadalmacija.hr/novosti/svijet/clanak/id/314115/pakleni-plan-isil-ovih-terorista-za-euro-dronovi-s-kemijskim-oruzjem-ubijat-ce-engleske-navijace)

Neodgovorni isilovci hahaha
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Toki on June 22, 2016, 02:20:33 pm
Eto uživo s Zlatnog rata  kod Bola...
Na prvoj slici se vidi na sredini slike odmah iznad planine.
Na ostalima se vidi jasno.
U pitanju je fant naravno.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Strah on June 23, 2016, 09:47:14 am
Odlično, to će biti lijepi kadrovi.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: kbelcar on June 23, 2016, 12:31:18 pm
...krasno mjesto za slikanje i snimanje  8)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: varadero on June 23, 2016, 09:12:47 pm
Sad kao svi gledate na ovoj zadnjoj slici drona, a ne onu u tangama što se naguzila iz petnih žila :)

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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: zlatcom on June 23, 2016, 09:24:07 pm
Kojeg drona?  ;D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Toki on June 24, 2016, 08:53:37 pm
Sad kao svi gledate na ovoj zadnjoj slici drona, a ne onu u tangama što se naguzila iz petnih žila :)

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;D
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Diogen on June 24, 2016, 09:58:14 pm
Toki, samo ti slikaj po plaži, pa postaj slike ovdje ! Nije važno ako ti se u kadar zaleti po koji dron...
D.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Plavi on June 24, 2016, 10:13:49 pm
Sad kao svi gledate na ovoj zadnjoj slici drona, a ne onu u tangama što se naguzila iz petnih žila :)

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Da li ti je nešto u rodu ona bez tangica sa ljeppšim nogama?
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Toki on June 25, 2016, 04:07:51 pm
Sad kao svi gledate na ovoj zadnjoj slici drona, a ne onu u tangama što se naguzila iz petnih žila :)

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;D

Da li ti je nešto u rodu ona bez tangica sa ljeppšim nogama?

Nije nije
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bagsbani on June 30, 2016, 03:20:22 pm
jel i ovo neodgovaran "modelar"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lrrnkvXl4?t=1m51s
Title: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: SoXy on June 30, 2016, 03:53:57 pm
Da, i to jos hvalisavi! [emoji2]
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: mini_fly_moriss on August 17, 2016, 08:02:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtjjLND6f9o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtjjLND6f9o)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on August 18, 2016, 12:21:36 am
Jel to video od glupsona s yt kanala ili od nekoga drugog?
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: nino on August 18, 2016, 08:36:57 am
A ljudskoj gluposti, neznanju i bahatosti nikad kraja.

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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Remote on August 18, 2016, 09:27:00 am
''Ljudska pamet je najpravednije raspoređena na svijetu.....Nitko se ne žali da je ima premalo''

Voltaire
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Daglas on August 18, 2016, 10:16:37 am
Napisao sam mu komentar na YT da vidi što mislim o tom njegovom letu. Čudim se da nitko ne piše ništa tamo...
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: KresoZG on August 18, 2016, 10:53:13 am
Čovjek ima i službenu stranicu. Pitam se koliko mu je trebalo da dobije "odobrenje" od nadležnih službi RH. ;)
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: Daglas on August 18, 2016, 12:49:26 pm
Hahahaha lik je maknuo YT video...
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: bagsbani on August 18, 2016, 12:57:35 pm
Iz nepoznatih razloga je počeo skupljat dislajkove :)

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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: sasapu on August 18, 2016, 01:10:46 pm
Kazes nadležna institucija za sličnu situaciju da slika sa potpisom nije dokaz,  znaci covjek stavio u novine sliku sa svojim potpisom i hvali se kako radi vrhunske slike po noći i institucija kaže da to nije dokaz

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Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on August 18, 2016, 01:13:59 pm
Kod nas izgleda da nije, vani to drugacije funkcionira
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: mini_fly_moriss on August 18, 2016, 04:45:24 pm
skinuo sam ja video na laptop. za radionice kad predajem opcenoto o dronovima za primjer kako ne treba letit. i kako biti kreten. ovo treba kaznjavat!!! radi ovakvih morona mi svi skupa cemo naj***ti i to ni krivi ni duzni.
Title: Odg: Neodgovorni "modelari"
Post by: tomoooo on August 18, 2016, 05:01:30 pm
Moj prvi komentar na YT-u i nakon toga ode video :) :)