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Title: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on January 26, 2015, 08:39:00 pm
Istina masina se slicno zove, ali nije isti kao original DJI Inspire 1 l!!

Naime rijec je potpuno drugom modelu (mada slicnom) takoder sa slicnim sustavom upravljanja retracta ustvari ruka, koji je predviden za izradu na 3D printeru....

E, sad ukoliko nekoga zanima - neka se javi... buduci da cu kupiti nacrte, printer  i materijal imam a ostalo je dim :) !!

Sve sto vas zanima ima na ovim linkovima, a i sve sto treba od mehanike i elektronike biti ce uskoro dostupno u "rchobbysuk" shopu
http://www.rchobbysuk.co.uk/blogs/dji-inspired-3d-printable (http://www.rchobbysuk.co.uk/blogs/dji-inspired-3d-printable)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2327044 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2327044)


Ja bih se upustio u gradnju istog ....nema se za elektroniku, ali bih stvarno volio napravit jedan model  (makar i za tude pare)....  8) 8) 8)

(http://www.rchobbysuk.co.uk/uploads/1/1/9/0/11909308/1421875588.png)


Lp, chris
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Post by: kbelcar on February 11, 2015, 08:05:18 pm
...evo krenulo polako printanje dijelova  8) 8) 8)
jos da je sakupit novce za kompletnu elektroniku - gdje bi mi bio kraj  ::)

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lp
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Post by: sekile on February 11, 2015, 08:38:56 pm
Ful me zanima kako ce ispasti, sve pohvale, pratim razvoj makine  8) 8)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: X on February 12, 2015, 04:42:13 pm
Opako izgleda, vidim da se može slagati u raznim veličinama, koji setup ide gore ?

Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 12, 2015, 06:04:36 pm
Da, sama velicina modela ovisi o duljini karbonskih cijevi koje se koriste!

U planu imam ovaj setup (koji je podlozan promjenama)

Kontroler
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251690962875?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251690962875?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true)

Motori
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=41624&buddycode=BC662B3F-ABFF-4370-8EB2-C5F8320F63D5 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=41624&buddycode=BC662B3F-ABFF-4370-8EB2-C5F8320F63D5)
ili vjerojatnije
http://www.rctimer.com/product-709.html (http://www.rctimer.com/product-709.html)

Esc
http://www.rctimer.com/product-1059.html (http://www.rctimer.com/product-1059.html)
ili
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39708 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39708)

Prop
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=51971&buddycode=47A720FA-7322-412F-982A-E892921C351B (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=51971&buddycode=47A720FA-7322-412F-982A-E892921C351B)
Title: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: SoXy on February 14, 2015, 09:06:43 am
Gledam ga vec dva tjedna i nikako da se odlucim krenuti u to dokle god stalno izlaze dopune i izmjene, a nisu rijeseni problemi s retraktima... Da li je poletio koji?
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 14, 2015, 09:42:30 am
Imam ti ja jedan APM ovakav kakav ti oćeš. Ja ti ga posudim na neodređeno vrijeme da ga koristiš u projektu. Rado bih vidio ovako nešto.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Mile-HR on February 14, 2015, 01:25:47 pm
Izgleda odlicno jesi li razmisljao gdje ces s baterijom? cini mi se kao da bas i nema nesto puno mjesta za nju.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 15, 2015, 02:56:57 pm
ToMany... odlicno - hvala za prijedlog (pomoc)
... u fazi sam printanja - a i sve dijelove imam u vektorskom formatu pa ce biti podlozni redizajnu!! Za sada mi je problem nabaviti karbonske cijevi 16mm, a plan je redizajn kucista pokretnih ruka a mozda i mjesta gdje se smjesta servo - pa staviti 12v DC motor sa getribom (nesto kao ovo) (http://www.dx.com/p/zndiy-bry-dc-12v-120rpm-dc-6v-60rpm-high-torque-gear-motor-silver-301753), i naravno leziste za bateriju!!

Ukoliko uspijem prodati koji komplet plasticnih dijelova (ebay), sve je moguce

Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 15, 2015, 04:50:42 pm
Evo poceli su izlaziti prvi testni modeli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTZJdORX1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTZJdORX1Q)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_uKRPjBDeY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_uKRPjBDeY)

Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 15, 2015, 04:59:13 pm
Mislim da bih 12v stepper bio idealan za funkciju dizanja i spuštanja. Ovo mi se čini malo grubo.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Ante ST on February 15, 2015, 06:20:58 pm
Izgleda premoćno,zelin ti srecu u projektu.
Samo ovakav princip retrakta mi se cini dosta kompliciran..i mozda je pitanje glupo ali dali se retrakt nekako fiksira kad dođe u gornju ili donju tocku,ili ga u polozaju drzi konstantno servo motor/motori?
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 15, 2015, 06:23:07 pm
Stalno ga drži servo ili motor koliko sam ja po nacrtima vidio. Ali jedan dobar stepper ili servo bez frke to drži.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Zzingos on February 18, 2015, 06:40:24 am
hmmm....zanimljivo kolega.
Nazovi me da malo prodiskutiramo ovo. Zainteresiran sam da napravimo zajedno jedan ogledni model.
Poslao sam ti PM
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Zzingos on February 18, 2015, 10:08:12 am
Kako naštimati da se retracti automatski spuštaju, kada recimo je uključen RTH ?
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 18, 2015, 10:10:36 am
Treba napraviti arduino controler koji to radi. Signal da mu bude možda ledica kad se prebaci u failsafe mode.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 18, 2015, 10:12:30 am
Ili čak možda ultrasonic senzor koji detektira tlo pa onda spušta retrakte.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Zzingos on February 18, 2015, 10:16:39 am
Je li to ovo?


http://www.rchobbysuk.co.uk/store/p138/DJI_Inspired_Electrical_Kits.html (http://www.rchobbysuk.co.uk/store/p138/DJI_Inspired_Electrical_Kits.html)


Ali ne kužim, čini mi se samo da se manualno može sa ovom pločicom. Šture informacije
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Zzingos on February 18, 2015, 10:19:37 am
Da li bi se moglo takvo nešto u pixhawk sa optical flow senzorom isprogramirati?
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 18, 2015, 02:37:11 pm
Vjerujem da bi se moglo .... a i arduino je za to spreman, treba napravit i prckat po cod-u! Moze se isprogramirat da sam spusta retracte da spusta na odredenoj visini, preko ultrasonic-a, preko switch-a na stanici, a i prema odredenoj vrijednosti dolaznog signala pa se isprogramira da u vrijednosti (ms) kojom okidas rth - arduino spusti i retracte, preko istog kanala - naravno u kombinaciji jer bi inace samo kog RTH imao spustene retracte  8)

pozzz
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Zzingos on February 18, 2015, 04:01:18 pm
Ha...već postoji...odlično


https://github.com/diydrones/ardupilot/pull/1738/files
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 22, 2015, 03:19:02 pm
Posao printanja polako ide kraju  :)

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U nedostatku karbonskih cijevi isprintao sam si plasticne, nisam bas sretan sa tim rjesenjem (jer sam ih morao spajati), ali za vizualno ce posluziti :)

LP, hris


Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 22, 2015, 03:20:19 pm
Jako dobro
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: drvoholding on February 22, 2015, 06:53:25 pm
dobra ti je fora ...


koji promjer cijevi je u pitanju ....
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: wirevt on February 22, 2015, 07:08:46 pm
Super projekt. Pratim ovu temu u nadi da će ova stvar u skoro vrijeme poletjeti.  :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: SoXy on February 22, 2015, 07:52:08 pm
16ice
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Ante ST on February 23, 2015, 06:06:36 pm
I mene zanima cili taj sistem retrakta,obavezno to poslikaj kad bude gotovo
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 23, 2015, 09:40:32 pm
Cijevi su isprintane OD 16mm ID 10mm, buduci da sam ih na mjestima spoja spajao sa aluminijskom cijevi OD 10mm, na kraju su jos cijevi obljepljena 3d carboon look folijom!

Imam jos par komada za isprintat - onda moram rijesit servo za retracte, i spreman za elaktroniku :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 24, 2015, 03:21:48 pm
.... zavrsavam polako na sasiji i to je to...  8)

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lp


Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on February 24, 2015, 03:23:35 pm
Zovi kad ti bude kontroler trebao :) Super izgleda
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Post by: drvoholding on February 24, 2015, 04:51:12 pm
jel bude to servo okretal spindlu ili kak ...
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: SoXy on February 24, 2015, 10:55:54 pm
No ovo je ipak preuzbudljivo da bih propustio... idemo probati! :-)
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Post by: kbelcar on February 26, 2015, 02:33:04 pm
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Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: wirevt on February 26, 2015, 02:42:26 pm
Ovo mrak izgleda, super si to napravio.  :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: SoXy on February 26, 2015, 02:43:25 pm
Odlicno zgledi. Kako si mislio rijesiti retracte? Sad imaju i onu arduino plocu na stanju...
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 26, 2015, 04:52:38 pm
Probat cu svoje rjesenje (mehanicko) - ako to nebude to, programirat cu arduino, ako ni to ne uspijem kupit cu plocicu :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: BuBizgb on February 26, 2015, 04:55:27 pm
Svaka cast super izgleda! ;)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: SoXy on February 26, 2015, 05:17:49 pm
S veseljem očekujemo rješenja dok printamo plastiku :-)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 27, 2015, 02:35:01 pm
Ipak sam presao na drugu boju, mislim da mu ta bolje stoji!!! :)

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Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: wirevt on February 27, 2015, 05:05:17 pm
Puno bolje izgleda kombo crno - bijele  ;)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 28, 2015, 01:02:01 pm
Malo testirao sa 5kg/cm servom - treba jaci i sa metalnom getribom


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I2ECRGBJkA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I2ECRGBJkA)
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Post by: Euformelo on February 28, 2015, 02:36:18 pm
Hm a sto dobijes s time da se podize i spusta osim sto imas vise rotacije za kameru?
Mislim da li ima nekog aerodinamickog ucinka?
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: drvoholding on February 28, 2015, 02:41:25 pm
na onoj slici gdi su spustene noge (na sodru) mi djeluje kao da bi propovi mogli samarati po podu , jel to bude kaj postelano ili ...
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 28, 2015, 03:48:52 pm
Ne, neide toliko duboko (kao na slici na sodru), onda jos nije bilo osovine unutra - pak sam ga samo tak stavio (za slikanje)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on February 28, 2015, 03:53:04 pm
Hm a sto dobijes s time da se podize i spusta osim sto imas vise rotacije za kameru?
Mislim da li ima nekog aerodinamickog ucinka?

Ne - nema, to je samo za vise slobode gimbalu (vise estetika..... nego funkcionalnost)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Euformelo on February 28, 2015, 05:07:33 pm
Eh, onda ne vidim neku vecu svrhu toga :/ Osim sto izgleda predobro :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on March 02, 2015, 07:21:42 pm
Buduci da radim novi frame (redizajn) da moze na njega stati baterija 6000-8000mah 6S, kad stignu karbonske cijevi i diode za retracte kompletan  frame sa funkcionalnim retractima i servom ide na prodaju za nekih 600 kuna - ako nekog zanima da si ga zavrsi do kraja nek mi se javi na PP!

lp
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on March 02, 2015, 07:23:00 pm
Buduci da radim novi frame (redizajn) da moze na njega stati baterija 6000-8000mah 6S, kad stignu karbonske cijevi i diode za retracte kompletan  frame sa funkcionalnim retractima i servom ide na prodaju za nekih 600 kuna - ako nekog zanima da si ga zavrsi do kraja nek mi se javi na PP!

lp
Za koje motore i propove je to predviđeno
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on March 03, 2015, 01:27:53 pm
Predvideno za njega
3508 / 4110 motors.
30 - 40a ESC.
props 10"-14"
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: TooManySecrets on March 04, 2015, 09:33:18 am
Pa na koji se način može smanjiti na 300 size quad? Ako samo ruke zamijenimo bit će i dalje pretežak za slabije motore. Ili se scale down napravi na kompletnim djelovima.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on March 05, 2015, 07:23:11 am
Sve se moze napraviti! Treba malo redizajna i moze se smanjiti!
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on March 05, 2015, 10:16:47 pm
Evo, par slika  mojeg redizajna!!!
Sad na njega moze ici i Multistar baterija 6s 8000mah, esc-ovi idu ispod motora u ruke, sistem retracta poboljsan - balans poluga je sada direktno ispod ruke, pa ne smeta niti 15" propelerima!! Sad jos treba napraviti atraktivni shell - oklop :)

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LP...Chris
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: BuBizgb on March 05, 2015, 10:59:26 pm
Odlicno! ;)
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Post by: kbelcar on March 15, 2015, 09:01:26 pm
Eto kad vec crtam - napravio (dizajnirao) sam si kompletan novi stroj,,,,

....jos da je $$$$ - di bi mi bio kraj  ???

http://www.flyfreak.net/multirotor/raptor/ (http://www.flyfreak.net/multirotor/raptor/)


Lp, Chrisss
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Smoukey on March 15, 2015, 09:45:08 pm
Svaka čast na uradcima, skidam kapu prekrasan je kao i sve tvoje pile!!


Ovakvoga bi si i ja isprintao pa da svog quada prebacim u ovu ramu.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on March 28, 2015, 11:51:11 am
Evo zavrseni su modeli :)

Razlika izmedu:
- engleskog nacrta "DJI Inspired printable quad" i
- mojeg dizajna "Raptor v1"

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LP, Chris
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Ante ST on March 28, 2015, 02:44:29 pm
tvoj mi je puno lipsi,pari ko xenomorph iz aliena :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on March 28, 2015, 03:21:59 pm
Hahaaaa, da... kad malo bolje pogledam vise je na njega nego na "Raptora"
-  uzeo kao "Raptor" jer canopy vuce na Raptor50 (Heli)  koji sam ima :)
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: Mark on March 31, 2015, 09:47:42 am
Svaka cast,sve pohvale,i zelje da se sto prije vine u zrak.
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: shogun on June 27, 2015, 08:57:10 pm
di si kupovao karbonske cijevi
i kolko si metara potrosio
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on June 27, 2015, 09:55:49 pm
Ebay... ukupno 2x40cm i 2x20cm cijevi
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: shogun on June 27, 2015, 10:41:17 pm
Zahvaljujem
Uskoro cu ga i ja pocet printat long term project
Title: Odg: DJI Inspired (3D Printable Quad)
Post by: kbelcar on June 28, 2015, 10:51:03 pm
Evo ja sve prodajem...ako ces zeljet - mozemo se dogovoriti!


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