Pozdrav!
Evo i ja opet uskacem s jednom temom.Miniquad je slozen :D ,uskoro stize i ta tema.Eh sad mene zanima jedno,imam jedan stari mali CRT televizor kojeg sam naso na tavanu :P ,znam da određene komponente rade na istosmjernu struju jer ima ispravljac i transformator,bili on mogao raditi samo na istosmjernu struju ili neke komponente ipak trebaju izmjenicnu?Pitam jer sam ga mislio prikopcat na 12v akumulator i da bude prijenosan ak mi zatreba za malo veci FPV ekran i cito sam da su CRT ekrani jako dobri za analogan prikaz slike.Ak se netko razumije u televizore :P svaki savjet je cijenjen :D
Pa nije to sam tak ( ako nema predviđen ulaz za 12V jer ima i takvih).
A taj TV ima neko ime/tip ili se oznaka izbrisala :D ?
Tak sam si i mislio da nije sam tak al ko pita ne skita :D .Samo znam da je neki prastari VIVAX,ostalih naljepnica nema :P .Mogu i koju slikicu nabacit,al nije to televizor predviđen za rad na 12V DC al sam se ponadao posto neki vrag unutra koristi 12V DC jer tako pise na transformatoru da ce mozda direktno proradit na 12V.
Evo jedne lijepe stanice sa lampicama spremna za u Jeep.
Lijevo je napajanje ( vibro inverter ) :P .
Btw, treba razmišljati i o potrošnji kod takve preinake.
E to je bila tehnologija :D.Znaci nista od direktnih 12V -.-,steta,onda se bacamo na nabavku nekog invertera :)
Već te vidim, ruksak na leđima sa akumulatorom i inverterom, tv pod desnom rukom, model u lijevoj. hmmmmmmmm a stanica ??? ?
Da nisi slučajno Kalamarko :D ?
:D.Stanicu cu oko vrata objesit ;D .
nabavi si ups pa ga preradi, sa akumulatora na 220v i pici.
mene sad zanima jedna stvar, koliko vas nezna da je u kući izmjenična a u autu i na svim aparatima koji treba DC istosmjerna?
mene sad zanima jedna stvar, koliko vas nezna da je u kući izmjenična a u autu i na svim aparatima koji treba DC istosmjerna?
Pa nebih se baš složio s tobom u izjavi da:
"a u autu i na svim aparatima koji treba DC istosmjerna?"
Davno je to bilo Plavi.... :)
Ja učio na Colinsu ra390a pa ft277b....
Inverter je fora.... ;D
ok
Ma nesto cemo smisliti ne brinite,hvala na savjetima,ako ima jos neko neki samo pisite :D
Kupiš ovo za 240kn i mirna bosna, zakaj kemijat bezveze
http://www.njuskalo.hr/elektronski-uredaji/pretvarac-napona-12v-220v-300w-oglas-8085221 (http://www.njuskalo.hr/elektronski-uredaji/pretvarac-napona-12v-220v-300w-oglas-8085221)
(http://www.njuskalo.hr/image-w920x690/elektronski-uredaji/pretvarac-napona-12v-220v-300w-slika-23049420.jpg)
lp
@4tm:
" Davno je to bilo Plavi....
Ja učio na Colinsu ra390a pa ft277b....Inverter je fora... "
A ja učio na ovome, ujedno je to i odgovor na pitanje experthr-u. jednostavno i efikasno rješenje..a služi i za rekreaciju! ;)
(http://www.radista.info/radio_hf/hf_radio_unit_RUP-15_manual_generator.jpg)
D.
ha ha ha Diogen
Ovo su bili poćeci teretane, ovo je deda ovoga
(http://www.oglasi.rs/images/oglas/201305/636347/3.jpg) (http://www.oglasi.rs/images/oglas/201305/636347/3.jpg)
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Davno je to bilo Plavi.... :)
Ja učio na Colinsu ra390a pa ft277b....
Inverter je fora.... ;D
Upravo tako ;) , nekad sam radio sa AN/GRC 9 kao predajnikom i Colinsom na prijemnoj strani
ovaj ovdije
(http://home.comcast.net/~k7rld/R388frontW.jpg)
Mogu samo reći da se mnogi noviji uređaju nisu mogli uspoređivati sa ovom starom kantom.
Prijemnik je imao i VFO izlaz koji se mogao koristiti za predajnik čime se izbjegavalo zasebno podešavanje RX i TX strane,
Šteta što sam imao samo prijemnik. Angerica je završila kod susjeda koji se još uvijek bavi radio amaterizmom ( kao muzejski primjerak ).
Inaće AN/GRC9 je koristila ručne generatore, motogeneratore a u "novije" vrijeme switchere tj. vibropretvarače. Ja sam svoj preuredio u klasično napajanje.
Sve u svemu neznaš što je bilo gore, vrtit generator ili motat motalicu :D .
Od tud je i proizašla ona: Rodila majka propalicu da mota motalicu ;)
Nekad je bilo čist ok umjesto u kino otići na "vojni" otpad i ako ništa drugo razgledavati te tu i tamo nešto i upiknuti.
Tako sam i ja od Trešnjevke do Sesveta teglio ovo čudo, veselio se dobroj kupovini i bio sretan kao kad mi je stari kupil kožnjaču 5-icu :D .
Doduše onaj moj je bio BC312
(http://www.radioblvd.com/RTTY/bc342nBST.jpg)
@experthr
Naj jednostavnije rješenje je ovo što ti je kao odgovor ponudio Jarun jer bez sheme se ne isplati kemijati a ovako ga možeš koristiti i na polju i uz jutarnju kavicu doma ( smo pripazi da inverter ima što čišću sinusoidu ).
Pa tu smo da kemijamo :D.Al vidim da je ovo malo preveliki zalogaj tak da cu nabavit onda taj ili neki slican i tjt.Zahvaljujem se svima!A sad kad vidim da ste se tu vec skupili da vas pitam jos nesto.Dns sam imo let sa svojim miniquadom,prvi po ovako relativno hladnim temperaturama,i letim ja sve super,sve odlicno i najednom na monitoru samo crna slika(nema blue/black screen) ostane,Bog me je cuvao pa sam imao srece da sam bas tad bio stao i onda sam preuzeo kontrolu line of sight.Sletim ja i uzmem ga u ruke,viglam vamo tamo nista slika se ne vraca,mijenjam kanale opet nista,palim/gasim TX i RX opet nista,onda sam krenuo u inspekciju i svi spojevi uredu,sve uredu,samo sam primjetio da se mi je kamerica ohladila ko da je u zamrzivacu bila,a nije ni dns tako hladno nego kad vjetar po njoj puse tokom leta ohladila se,mislim si idem pokusati nesto nosim ga ja u kucu i 2-3 minutice i evo slika se vratila.Jel moguce da se kamerica uspjela tolko ohladiti da je prestala raditi -.-?
Kao što kaže Plavi : nekad je bilo ''čist normalno''.... raditi na analognim sovjetskim proizvodima ;D...kratkovalni i srednjevalni tx/rx ,ugrađen na prekooceanskom teretnom brodu, testirao sam u jednom crnomorskom brodogradilištu(prije 40 godina današnja Ukraina) 8)
Mes prijatelju što si imao mobilni prije 40 let ;)
Lp
Ne dragi Marjane , ovo Ti je interni brodski telefon,pod stalnom paskom ''komesara'' Saše :-X...kasnije sam mu(Saši) uzeo ''mjeru'' na probnoj vožnji :D,ali o tom kad se vidimo u Prelogu...LP
Mes
@experthr
Moguće je, neznam sad dal je do kamere ili elektronike oko nje ali recimo meni na CNC-u već dugo jedan driver chip ne šljaka ako ga ne zgrijem s lemilicom.
Vjerojatno je u pitanju neka termo integrirana zaštita koja blesavi i na nižim temperaturama.
@Remote
A vidi ti mladića ;)
a telefuna .... ??? ..
@ Plavi/Drvoholding ,hvala ...nekad bilo...sad se spominjalo.... ;D ;D ;D...LP
Onda cu provest neki otpornik oko kamere pa da ju malo ugrije ili nesto.Al nmg zamislit kak se tolko ohladi u zraku da prestane davat sliku -.-
pokusaj za pocetak odvojeno provjerti kameru drito na neki tv , pa tx-rx kombinaciju ...
oprosti na razmisljanju ako si to vec radio , ali uglavnom ja bi tako krenuo ....
I iskoristi frizer :) .
Proveo sam mali test u nedjelju,kamera je kriva,kineski srot :P,kad je temp u frizideru bila oko 3-5 stupnjeva prestala je davat sliku,kad uhvatim na vremenu nesto cu smislit da ju malo ugrijem za ovo hladnije vrijeme :D
uzmi stiropor i od njega napravi kućište za kamericu, fino i namontiraj na letjelicu
Nesto cu rijesit samo da bude sto laganije ;D
Evo, našao sam jedno rješenje za televizor:
How to Power a TV using a AAA battery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rA-zhTJuFU#)
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:D :D :D skuzi samo koliko pogleda ima ..... garantiram da ih je barem deset probalo .... ::) ::)
Ljudi svemu vjeruju :D.Ovaj video mi je bio extra kad sam prvi put nabaso na njega http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAePZGgpAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAePZGgpAA) :P